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12thMan 01-18-2010, 08:20 PM Wolfeskins, you're wrong on both accounts. Respectfully. First, the exit polling in both the Virginia and N.J races were not a referundum on the president or his agenda. It was and still is primarily about the respective candidates themselves and the local issues in those states. In the case of Creigh Deeds, as I've stated before, and in the case of Martha Coakley both campaigns left a lot to be desired.
On the second point, Obama stumped for Coakley yesterday at Northeastern University. They used footage from that event; Obama didn't tape a commercial for her. It's her commercial and her voice endorsing said ad at the end. I think for people to try to connect the dots from these two or three races and come to some conclusion about the president's agenda is premature and not realizing most importantly that politics are local. This is the ebb and flow of politics and elections in an off year for incumbent candidates.
Are Democrats in trouble? With each day that passes, that's becoming more and more appearant. But to say this spells trouble in 2012 for President Obama is wishful thinking, in my opinion. It takes a horse to beat a horse, and so far the Republicans have produced a lot of show ponies.
TheSmurfs22 01-18-2010, 08:37 PM I would like to see Brown win but I have a sinking feeling Coakley will eek it out in the 11the hour. IF Brown wins expect the Dems on the Hill to push Healthcare through before Brown gets there.
TheSmurfs22 01-18-2010, 08:39 PM Are Democrats in trouble? With each day that passes, that's becoming more and more appearant. But to say this spells trouble in 2012 for President Obama is wishful thinking, in my opinion. It takes a horse to beat a horse, and so far the Republicans have produced a lot of show ponies.[/QUOTE]
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I agree with your comment esp about 2012. Unless Obama totally bungles things he will be re-elected. I have believed all along he would be a two term president. The Republicans are still in disaray and need to sort themselves out if they want to put a viable candidate out there in 2012.
12thMan 01-18-2010, 08:46 PM Are Democrats in trouble? With each day that passes, that's becoming more and more appearant. But to say this spells trouble in 2012 for President Obama is wishful thinking, in my opinion. It takes a horse to beat a horse, and so far the Republicans have produced a lot of show ponies.
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I agree with your comment esp about 2012. Unless Obama totally bungles things he will be re-elected. I have believed all along he would be a two term president. The Republicans are still in disaray and need to sort themselves out if they want to put a viable candidate out there in 2012.[/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong though, a Coakley lost will be a big hit to the White House. But like I said, you need another heavy weight to put in the ring in 2012, and right now Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee are the front runners. Someone like Senator John Thune could emerge as a player, I don't know. But he's more of a long shot than a viable candidate at this point.
wolfeskins 01-18-2010, 09:07 PM Wolfeskins, you're wrong on both accounts. Respectfully. First, the exit polling in both the Virginia and N.J races were not a referundum on the president or his agenda. It was and still is primarily about the respective candidates themselves and the local issues in those states. In the case of Creigh Deeds, as I've stated before, and in the case of Martha Coakley both campaigns left a lot to be desired.
On the second point, Obama stumped for Coakley yesterday at Northeastern University. They used footage from that event; Obama didn't tape a commercial for her. It's her commercial and her voice endorsing said ad at the end. I think for people to try to connect the dots from these two or three races and come to some conclusion about the president's agenda is premature and not realizing most importantly that politics are local. This is the ebb and flow of politics and elections in an off year for incumbent candidates.
Are Democrats in trouble? With each day that passes, that's becoming more and more appearant. But to say this spells trouble in 2012 for President Obama is wishful thinking, in my opinion. It takes a horse to beat a horse, and so far the Republicans have produced a lot of show ponies.
hey all i'm saying is people are really disapointed with obama and the demacratic party and because of that republicans will continue to gain seats.
like i've said before obama will prolly go down as the worst pres.in history so far. he's been a huge disapointment.
12thMan 01-18-2010, 09:12 PM hey all i'm saying is people are really disapointed with obama and the demacratic party and because of that republicans will continue to gain seats.
like i've said before obama will prolly go down as the worst pres.in history so far. he's been a huge disapointment.
I agree with your first statement, people are disappointed with Obama. But that would be another thread. lol
I respect your opinion, no biggie.
wolfeskins 01-18-2010, 09:15 PM I agree with your first statement, people are disappointed with Obama. But that would be another thread. lol
I respect your opinion, no biggie.
yea,it's just my opinion. i could be completely wrong
GMScud 01-18-2010, 10:37 PM IMO, as a Republican, I'm finding this race in Mass totally hilarious. I don't know if it's because Coakley felt like she was entitled to a Kennedy seat simply because she shares his party, but this campaign has been AWFUL! Alienating Red Sox and Bruins fans, saying Catholics shouldn't work in emergency rooms, Patrick Kennedy doesn't even know Coakley's name, Obama comes in and makes fun of Brown's truck (HELLO? A GM truck with over 200,000 miles- oops!). It's no wonder Rahm and Co won't let him speak off the cuff anymore... I mean, what a shit show. Oh, and don't forget that awkward moment this morning when Coakley tried to relate Dr. King's "dream" to her campaign. I was embarrassed for her. She's got campaign staff that can't even spell the name of the state for God's sake.
Coakley is a fail. Massachusetts hasn't had a Republican senator in 38 years. They will tomorrow. And when the polls close, my must see TV will be MSNBC. It's gonna be hilarious.
Trample the Elderly 01-18-2010, 10:39 PM Wolfeskins, you're wrong on both accounts. Respectfully. First, the exit polling in both the Virginia and N.J races were not a referundum on the president or his agenda. It was and still is primarily about the respective candidates themselves and the local issues in those states. In the case of Creigh Deeds, as I've stated before, and in the case of Martha Coakley both campaigns left a lot to be desired.
On the second point, Obama stumped for Coakley yesterday at Northeastern University. They used footage from that event; Obama didn't tape a commercial for her. It's her commercial and her voice endorsing said ad at the end. I think for people to try to connect the dots from these two or three races and come to some conclusion about the president's agenda is premature and not realizing most importantly that politics are local. This is the ebb and flow of politics and elections in an off year for incumbent candidates.
Are Democrats in trouble? With each day that passes, that's becoming more and more appearant. But to say this spells trouble in 2012 for President Obama is wishful thinking, in my opinion. It takes a horse to beat a horse, and so far the Republicans have produced a lot of show ponies.
My vote was.
wolfeskins 01-18-2010, 11:02 PM My vote was.
so was mine but apparently we were not polled while exiting the voting area. thank the lord,cuz i never want to be polled.:)
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