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12thMan 01-20-2010, 02:38 AM I actually think this a good thing for the Democrats. All isn't lost for the Democrats and certainly not for Obama's agenda. This is definitely a set back, but not the end. Truth is, they never really had a super majority as witnessed by the struggle with passing healthcare. Now they'll man up and stop chasing that elusive number 60 and get down to business.
The balance is good for the country and the party, actually.
saden1 01-20-2010, 04:48 AM Losing MA is inexcusable...it's pathetic to see all these Dems point fingers. Man the f'ck up, take your licking and stop whining. I mean, they're acting like they lost congress and there is no hope. I say bring out the iron club and start whacking people in the face if they act a fool and if the GOP decide to fillabuster everything threaten with everything imaginable including doing away with the fillabuster. It's a game of chess not checkers and you still have a huge advantage.
Enjoy this win boys, see you in Nov.
saden1 01-20-2010, 04:53 AM Ok, if that makes you feel better. Funny just last year you liberals where touting how the right was done but now your worried out one person voting. I guess that was short lived. That lasted about as long as a liberal radio talk show.
No one cares about where a failed presidential candidate votes, what we care about is a cheating pot whining about the kettle cheating.
BringBackJoeT 01-20-2010, 10:17 AM I actually think this a good thing for the Democrats. All isn't lost for the Democrats and certainly not for Obama's agenda. This is definitely a set back, but not the end. Truth is, they never really had a super majority as witnessed by the struggle with passing healthcare. Now they'll man up and stop chasing that elusive number 60 and get down to business.
The balance is good for the country and the party, actually.
Well said.
Monkeydad 01-20-2010, 10:31 AM Well, hearing Democrats speaking after the election and this morning, they just don't get it. They're blaming the loss on a bad candidate. Bad candidates have a history of success in Massachusetts. Brown won because a LOT of registered Democrats (Dems outnumber Repubs 3.5:1 in MA) wanted to send a message to the President and Congress...stop with the corruption, stop with the bribes and backroom tricks, start with some transparency and START LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE! Brown did not win because he was up against a bad candidate, he won because they don't want the bad Healthcare bill and they're sick of the arrogance. President Obama and Pelosi have been talking about ways to circumvent the system to push the bad bill through regardless of the election. Lets see if they have the egotism to try now. After NJ, VA, now Massachusetts, that's three major elections that the President has tried to influence and failed, likely hurting his candidate's chances in the process.
The fall elections are not going to be pretty for the Democrat party. If they still support the bad bill and dirty tactics, they're good as dead career-wise. Still, their actions and behaviors in the past year may have already sealed their fate.
Funny how a year after the President won on "Change", it was the same campaign used against him that started the dismantling of his party's power, except the opposition has substance in their arguments.
Monkeydad 01-20-2010, 10:33 AM Losing MA is inexcusable...it's pathetic to see all these Dems point fingers. Man the f'ck up, take your licking and stop whining. I mean, they're acting like they lost congress and there is no hope. I say bring out the iron club and start whacking people in the face if they act a fool and if the GOP decide to fillabuster everything threaten with everything imaginable including doing away with the fillabuster. It's a game of chess not checkers and you still have a huge advantage.
Enjoy this win boys, see you in Nov.
The GOP won't sink to the lows that the Dems used against President Bush to try to block EVERYTHING.
Also, changing the Senate/House rules to get your way won't go ignored by the voters.
Just face it, 2/3 of Americans do not want this bad bill. Stop trying to force it on us against our will.
firstdown 01-20-2010, 11:21 AM I actually think this a good thing for the Democrats. All isn't lost for the Democrats and certainly not for Obama's agenda. This is definitely a set back, but not the end. Truth is, they never really had a super majority as witnessed by the struggle with passing healthcare. Now they'll man up and stop chasing that elusive number 60 and get down to business.
The balance is good for the country and the party, actually.
Really, they had control to pass the bill it was fighting within the party that made passing the bill so tough. The Rep. had nothing to do with dragging this out and did not have the votes to stop the bill.
firstdown 01-20-2010, 11:27 AM Losing MA is inexcusable...it's pathetic to see all these Dems point fingers. Man the f'ck up, take your licking and stop whining. I mean, they're acting like they lost congress and there is no hope. I say bring out the iron club and start whacking people in the face if they act a fool and if the GOP decide to fillabuster everything threaten with everything imaginable including doing away with the fillabuster. It's a game of chess not checkers and you still have a huge advantage.
Enjoy this win boys, see you in Nov.
Changing the rules mid way is what lead to this election and if they had left things alone in the first place their Dem. chould have appointed someone to replace TK. This is called a major back fire right in their face. I don't think they have the votes to do away with the fillabuster rule.
firstdown 01-20-2010, 12:35 PM Last night our club had our monthly meeting in my garage and after the meeting 3 of the guys stayed to play some darts. We turned on the TV to see what was going on right when they started calling the race. I turned the TV to MSNBC just to watch their coverage and we all got a good laugh at their spin on the win.
GMScud 01-20-2010, 12:46 PM Last night our club had our monthly meeting in my garage and after the meeting 3 of the guys stayed to play some darts. We turned on the TV to see what was going on right when they started calling the race. I turned the TV to MSNBC just to watch their coverage and we all got a good laugh at their spin on the win.
Oh for sure. I got several good laughs off of MSNBC last night.
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