SBXVII
01-24-2010, 12:22 AM
If drafted at all? You're saying that some teams didn't consider him worthy of being drafted at all?
That's just not accurate.
He was a top five QB prospect in that draft at the very very worst.
His most common projection was as a second or third round pick.
SI.com - 2005 NFL Draft - Jason Campbell (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/65730.html)
Jason Campbell*|*Auburn,*QB*:*2005 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=53511&draftyear=2005&genpos=qb)
I'm speculating as well as you ant SI is. Yes they think he was worthy of the draft spot but it doesn't mean he actually would have been drafted there. It all depends on what teams need and what teams had him on there radar and well after the draft we heard from media people saying some teams felt we reached for him taking him in the 1st round and some teams wondered why we even drafted him because they felt JC would have been available after the draft as a UFA. But.... as I said it's all speculation. What we do know is he was drafted in the 1st round. Whether he's worthy of that spot is opinion.
My opinion? JC was most likely worthy of a 4,5,or 6th round spot and was majorly coached up. He's definitly a great back up QB. We need a Franchise QB though for the long haul. Hopefully between Dad and Son the Shanahan's can find one where ever they draft him.
53Fan
01-24-2010, 12:39 AM
Walterfootball has CB targeted by zone blocking teams in the late first. Funny that they say his weight at the combine is going to be very important.
Dirtbag59
01-24-2010, 12:42 AM
We'll see. I've already seen Trent Williams fall a little bit but I could see CB rising. The combine should be very interesting. Fortunately we will have a clearer picture come draft day. In another post I had us taking Okung 1rst round and TW in the 2nd if available. That would make me very happy. If the staff sees Bradford as a franchise QB and he checks out healthy, taking him # 1 and CB #2 would certainly not break my heart. :)
Trent Williams would be a coup in the second round, but highly unlikely (I know you weren't implying he could fall down that far). Actually for a while I thought he was the worst guy for this offense but to be honest all of the top 7 tackles look like they could easily be day 1 starters for us (and I mean that in a good way). After that I like Tony Washington as a long term project but he could go as early as the second round. Though Charles Brown and Trent Davis seem like perfect fits.
53Fan
01-24-2010, 12:49 AM
Trent Williams would be a coup in the second round, but highly unlikely (I know you weren't implying he could fall down that far). Actually for a while I thought he was the worst guy for this offense but to be honest all of the top 7 tackles look like they could easily be day 1 starters for us (and I mean that in a good way). After that I like Tony Washington as a long term project but he could go as early as the second round. Though Charles Brown and Trent Davis seem like perfect fits.
You mean Anthony Davis or Trent Williams? I'd be surprised if Washington went that high but anything could happen after the combine. Are you familiar with Jared Veldheer?
Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale (http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=3758)
Dirtbag59
01-24-2010, 02:30 AM
You mean Anthony Davis or Trent Williams? I'd be surprised if Washington went that high but anything could happen after the combine. Are you familiar with Jared Veldheer?
Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale (http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=3758)
Guys way to small. We need someone a lot bigger. How do you expect him to get any rebounds for us......wait.
As for Anthony Davis, you're right, I meant to say Anthony Okung.
Ruhskins
01-25-2010, 08:54 AM
6'6 320 is too small?
For an elephant, yes. LOL.
RedskinMike
01-25-2010, 05:07 PM
I'm speculating as well as you ant SI is. Yes they think he was worthy of the draft spot but it doesn't mean he actually would have been drafted there. It all depends on what teams need and what teams had him on there radar and well after the draft we heard from media people saying some teams felt we reached for him taking him in the 1st round and some teams wondered why we even drafted him because they felt JC would have been available after the draft as a UFA. But.... as I said it's all speculation. What we do know is he was drafted in the 1st round. Whether he's worthy of that spot is opinion.
My opinion? JC was most likely worthy of a 4,5,or 6th round spot and was majorly coached up. He's definitly a great back up QB. We need a Franchise QB though for the long haul. Hopefully between Dad and Son the Shanahan's can find one where ever they draft him.
Nobody thought Campbell was going to go undrafted. It might have been a reach to take him in the first but there wasn't an analyst anywhere who did not have campbell as a top 3 round talent.
Slingin Sammy 33
01-25-2010, 05:22 PM
....I personally feel like Edwin Williams and Kory Lichtensteiger are going to work out well for our interior. Heck Casey Rabach might have his best season for the first time in a while. The thing we do know right now is that we need two tackles. Maybe for now the best COA would be to add one this year early in the draft and use Levi Jones as a stopgap at RT but theres a lot of time between now and the draft.What we also know right now is that Bruce Allen is a member of this site and he's been reading my past posts :)
http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/22793-the-official-draft-marcus-monk-thread.html#post429251
I didn't even know we picked up KL until I read your post, see how much I'm paying attention.
GTripp0012
01-25-2010, 05:25 PM
Something that just hit me now is that the argument to draft a QB at No. 4 is identical to the BPA argument.
I.e. we don't have a pressing concern at quarterback, but if a franchise guy is available at number four, we should take him and not think twice about it.
I agree with the logic. But that's the BPA argument that we always poked Vinny for, and a lot of people are using the same logic to suggest that Bradford/Clausen should be the pick.
/off-topic rant.