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Pocket$ $traight 03-14-2010, 02:36 PM I'm a big time Albert Haynseworth fan
He plays hard
He doesn't mince words
I LoL'd when Zorn 'punished' him by sending him home on Thanksgiving?
I loved it when he came to D. Hall defense and layed a big hambone hand on a couple of Falcons
Media love to hate on the dude
But Big Al is a beast!
I knew he would be their on Monday and i think him and Haslett are gonna to get along fine(both have actually stepped on a opponents face!)
Albert has that mean streak you can build a defense around
I think that Blache had it in for Albert as soon as he was signed. Blache refused to make changes that would have maximized Albert's ability so ultimately everybody suffered.
Just another example how we are better off with a clean slate.
tootergray34 03-14-2010, 02:49 PM well I say he better fucking show up...it's his job...and could you imagine making that much money and NOT showing up to your job. He needs to not only be producing at a pro bowl caliber level...but he also needs to be a presence in the locker room...and I mean a positive presence.
Pocket$ $traight 03-14-2010, 03:01 PM well I say he better fucking show up...it's his job...and could you imagine making that much money and NOT showing up to your job. He needs to not only be producing at a pro bowl caliber level...but he also needs to be a presence in the locker room...and I mean a positive presence.
This is an example of what I am talking about. Shitsham singlehandedly lost two games for us (Dallas and NO). You are saying that AH needs to do his job, is he supposed to kick field goals too? Zorn singlehandedly pissed away the Detroit game. Is AH supposed to take the 3 points when you can't run or decide that when you have a team stopped you let them kick a 50 yarder instead of giving them another down?
When did AH not show up? If those games down the stretch had mattered, he would have played in at least a couple of them.
I like his locker room presence. He is a straight shooter and basically said the team needed to play better. Was he supposed to be happy when they were losing games that they threw away?
Too many people in that building were comfortable with losing but AH takes the heat because he signed a big deal.
GusFrerotte 03-14-2010, 03:10 PM I am sure Haslett is going to maximize Al's potential for unleashing havoc with this hybrid scheme he is talking about. Would like to see what this hybrid looks like. Just a standard 3-4 with say a large MLB "cheating" just behind the NG or DT? Will be cool to see what Haslett has going.
GMScud 03-14-2010, 03:28 PM well I say he better fucking show up...it's his job...and could you imagine making that much money and NOT showing up to your job. He needs to not only be producing at a pro bowl caliber level...but he also needs to be a presence in the locker room...and I mean a positive presence.
Seriously. I hate it when guys get praise for showing up to workout. It's your profession. They make oodles of money and still get a few months off every year. Showing up to throw some weights around in the offseason doesn't deserve any extra kudos whatsoever.
Also, I hope no one gets their hopes over statements like this:
Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett intends to use multiple fronts and envisions Haynesworth moving between the nose and end spots in hybrid alignments. With what Haslett has planned, the Redskins believe Haynesworth will thrive.
What are they supposed to say? We just gave a retarded amount of money to this guy, now we're switching to a scheme where he may not be nearly as effective, and we're pretty concerned about how he'll fit. ??
Hopefully he can still occupy two O-lineman as 3-4 DE and free up Orakpo to wreak havoc a la Demarcus Ware. The article mentions Haslett moving Big Al around. I'd be interested to know what specific situations they'd use him as an end and at nose.
Anyone else a bit concerned with the notion of moving back and forth from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in the middle of the game? Hopefully we have the personnel, intelligence, and coaching to make that happen successfully.
SirClintonPortis 03-14-2010, 03:36 PM Seriously. I hate it when guys get praise for showing up to workout. It's your profession. They make oodles of money and still get a few months off every year. Showing up to throw some weights around in the offseason doesn't deserve any extra kudos whatsoever.
Also, I hope no one gets their hopes over statements like this:
Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett intends to use multiple fronts and envisions Haynesworth moving between the nose and end spots in hybrid alignments. With what Haslett has planned, the Redskins believe Haynesworth will thrive.
What are they supposed to say? We just gave a retarded amount of money to this guy, no we're switching to a scheme where he may not be nearly as effective, and we're pretty concerned about how he'll fit. ??
Hopefully he can still occupy two O-lineman as 3-4 DE and free up Orakpo to wreak havoc a la Demarcus Ware. The article mentions Haslett moving Big Al around. I'd be interested to know what specific situations they'd use him as an end and at nose.
Anyone else a bit concerned with the notion of moving back and forth from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in the middle of the game? Hopefully we have the personnel, intelligence, and coaching to make that happen successfully.
The only thing to worry about is weakside linebacker and whether or not the other ILB can handle it. If Rocky stays, then we're set. The line can be easily made by putting Rak on the D-line.
NYCskinfan82 03-14-2010, 03:41 PM I'm a big time Albert Haynseworth fan
He plays hard
He doesn't mince words
I LoL'd when Zorn 'punished' him by sending him home on Christmas?
I loved it when he came to D. Hall defense and layed a big hambone hand on a couple of Falcons
Media love to hate on the dude
But Big Al is a beast!
I knew he would be their on Monday and i think him and Haslett are gonna to get along fine(both have actually stepped on a opponents face!)
Albert has that mean streak you can build a defense around
OH! Hell Yeah very good points. I think this defense will be good may take a year but it will be good Lou Spanos was brought to help the 3-4 DF LB's are a big part of this DF.
Longtimefan 03-14-2010, 03:45 PM I agree that "Haynesworth is out of shape and needs to be on the field more" is blown way out of proportion. Now, it does look bad when he is getting carted off and then comes back in but who cares. When they signed him, they told everbody that he isn't an every down player.
IMO it comes down to jealousy and the # victories. Because they were 4-12, the media (especially the local media) loves to pile on how we spent 100 million on this guy and got worse (the 100 million is another popular inaccuracy). People are jealous of Albert so they feed on any negative out there.
Nothing this guy does is going to live up to the expectations created by his deal. He could have an All-Pro year in 2010, lead us to 12-4 but if we lost in the playoffs 10-7, I guarantee that the same jerks that blast him daily now (Andy Polin/Steve Czaban) would still repeat the same stupid jokes about him.
Every team would love to have him and his peers voted him the most dominant player in the NFL.
That's the same old story with virtually every player in the league. When things are going well they're heaping praise, when they go bad it' just the opposite. It's not limited to the media, fans are that way as well. I think we'll all agree Haynesworth is definitely an impact player who suffered only from lack of conditioning as well as being utilized in a fashion that prohibited him from being able to help the team the way he really wanted too. This year will unveil the new and improved version of Albert Haynesworth.
53Fan 03-14-2010, 04:00 PM Seriously. I hate it when guys get praise for showing up to workout. It's your profession. They make oodles of money and still get a few months off every year. Showing up to throw some weights around in the offseason doesn't deserve any extra kudos whatsoever.
Also, I hope no one gets their hopes over statements like this:
Defensive coordinator Jim Haslett intends to use multiple fronts and envisions Haynesworth moving between the nose and end spots in hybrid alignments. With what Haslett has planned, the Redskins believe Haynesworth will thrive.
What are they supposed to say? We just gave a retarded amount of money to this guy, no we're switching to a scheme where he may not be nearly as effective, and we're pretty concerned about how he'll fit. ??
Hopefully he can still occupy two O-lineman as 3-4 DE and free up Orakpo to wreak havoc a la Demarcus Ware. The article mentions Haslett moving Big Al around. I'd be interested to know what specific situations they'd use him as an end and at nose.
Anyone else a bit concerned with the notion of moving back and forth from a 3-4 to a 4-3 in the middle of the game? Hopefully we have the personnel, intelligence, and coaching to make that happen successfully.
I think we do, or at least we're trying to with the addition of players like Kemo. We have coaches who are experienced in the 3-4 and 4-3. It seems to be a step in the right direction and is a welcome change to the stagnant system we've had in place with Blache. I'm glad AH is showing up. It is voluntary and with all the talk about his dissatisfaction with the way he was used and the possible switch to NT I'm glad he's not acting like an ass as he's sometimes portrayed to be. I do believe this staff will use him more to his abilities than Blache. Hopefully a more aggressive, attacking defense.
Longtimefan 03-14-2010, 06:16 PM I think we do, or at least we're trying to with the addition of players like Kemo. We have coaches who are experienced in the 3-4 and 4-3. It seems to be a step in the right direction and is a welcome change to the stagnant system we've had in place with Blache. I'm glad AH is showing up. It is voluntary and with all the talk about his dissatisfaction with the way he was used and the possible switch to NT I'm glad he's not acting like an ass as he's sometimes portrayed to be. I do believe this staff will use him more to his abilities than Blache. Hopefully a more aggressive, attacking defense.
I agree 53....And with this coaching staff we will be able to determine if whatever appeared to have gone wrong with Albert's game was all on him, or if the coaches were partly to blame. As far as his gripes about how he was being utilized..I would gladly take 52 others with the same gripe. Further, I doubt very seriously he would have had the same issues had he gone to any other team because most other teams would have known how to take advantage of his skills and used him accordingly. His play this season will help determine whether it was him or Blache.
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