At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

#3 Davis makes alot better OT than QB
;)

haha was going to say perhaps we're doing our own jamarcus experiment

The bottom line is that no one knows how any of these QBs will fare in the NFL. College performance is just not reliable enough evidence to evaluate how a guy is going to blossom or implode. Ryan Leaf? Tom Brady? That being said: looking at intangibles, I have always liked the work ethic, attitude and passion with which Tim Tebow plays. However I still wouldn't take him unless he fell to round 3 and then there would have to be some trading and such to move up to get him there. First two picks should be of need. O line, LB, CB or O line again.

LOL, oops. i've edited my post. I also would prefer that we not draft clausen, but i prefaced my statement on if Shanahan was sold on him. Rex Grossman is obviously not the long-term answer and by tendering Campbell at a 1st round level only, it seems we dont expect Campbell to be the long-term answer either. so, somehow, we need to find ourselves a starting QB beyond 2010.

Keeping the same trade scenario, i'd love to see something like this:

-Washington trades #4 and #37 to SF for #13, #17, and #49.

-Washington trades #49 to Minnesota for Sage Rosenfels and #62. (This would make Rosenfelds equal 126 points, or a late 3rd rounder).

-The skins would end up with a 2010 Starting Quarterback, #13, #17, and #62.

In that scenario, my dream draft would go this way:


1 (#13) - Rutgers OT Anthony Davis
1 (#17) - SoCal OT Charles Brown
via Trade - Sage Rosenfels, starting QB
2 (#62) - Carolina NT Cam Thomas
4 (#101) - Connecticut DE/OLB Lindsey Witten
5 (#132) - Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount
7 (#196) - BPA

LOL, oops. i've edited my post. I also would prefer that we not draft clausen, but i prefaced my statement on if Shanahan was sold on him. Rex Grossman is obviously not the long-term answer and by tendering Campbell at a 1st round level only, it seems we dont expect Campbell to be the long-term answer either. so, somehow, we need to find ourselves a starting QB beyond 2010.

Keeping the same trade scenario, i'd love to see something like this:

-Washington trades #4 and #37 to SF for #13, #17, and #49.

-Washington trades #49 to Minnesota for Sage Rosenfels and #62. (This would make Rosenfelds equal 126 points, or a late 3rd rounder).

-The skins would end up with a 2010 Starting Quarterback, #13, #17, and #62.

In that scenario, my dream draft would go this way:


1 (#13) - Rutgers OT Anthony Davis
1 (#17) - SoCal OT Charles Brown
via Trade - Sage Rosenfels, starting QB
2 (#62) - Carolina NT Cam Thomas
4 (#101) - Connecticut DE/OLB Lindsey Witten
5 (#132) - Oregon RB LeGarrette Blount
7 (#196) - BPA

Apparently Brown is slipping and a number 17 pick might not be necessary, some have him sliding back into the 2nd

Apparently Brown is slipping and a number 17 pick might not be necessary, some have him sliding back into the 2nd

wow, i hadnt heard that.... although i doubt he'd slip all the way to our 2nd round pick (at the bottom of the 2nd round after the trade with the vikings). In that case, i'd take Campbell or Saffold at 17. From what i've read, theres a substantial drop-off in talent after the first 6-7 OTs, where as theres not much difference between the top tackles not named okung.

Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick

im down for any of the top tier tackles but i would stay away from anthony davis. seems like an exact clone of andre smith last year.

dedication, conditioning issues. was suspended a few times for missing/being late to team meetings. was demoted to the 2nd team at rutgers for reporting overweight.

missed his pro day b/c he was "sick". (i say he was out of shape, given his track record)

alot like andre smith who had the same conditioning and off field issues. also missed his pro day. i think davis actually stayed at the combine unlike davis who just left. andre smith then went on to be drafted top 10 by the bengals, holds out for along time then injures himself for the year on the first day he joins the team.

i despise players like this. im not knee jerk reacting when a player does this consistently for 4 years.

i would avoid players like this at all costs. with such a good quantity of 1st round talent at tackle, i dont see why we would have to settle for a davis.

Didn't realize Brown was slipping either. He's always been, as far as I know, pegged in the late 1st to early 2nd.

Saffold is rising a lot. Eagles, among other teams, are showing strong interest in him and could be targeting him with their 1st round pick

I meant as far as being considered like an 18-25 guy. I guess "apparently" was the wrong word though; more so "according to Kirwan" (at least in his recent mock) who had him going at pick 26 to the Cardinals before this version. Still though, that's only one man's speculation at this point.

Mock draft 4.0: If Clausen slips, Bills could take him at No. 9 (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d81714d0c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.

I agree with you that Clausen is the better prospect. There are plenty of people who think McCoy will be better though. To each his own. It doesn't necessarily mean that someone who doesn't agree is not as "well informed" as you. And actually since none of us have, met with, worked out or viewed all the coaches tape on these prospects we are all not well informed to some extent.

And on Clausen, as I posted in the Clausen has met with the Skins thread, he will not be working out at his pro day. He's rescheduled his workout for April 9th.