wolfeskins
03-29-2010, 06:14 PM
Tebow. to me, McCoy is a Brennen clone. not sure if Tebow can make the transition. but the guy is a winner. there is something to be said for that
i completely agree with you. there's just something special about tebow. too me, he's got that "it factor" we always hear about.
SBXVII
03-29-2010, 06:27 PM
I think if you protect Campbell, you'll get really good accuracy. That's really all that was different in 2008.
Let him get hit all day long and, well, yeah, his mechanics go to hell. And then you get crappy accuracy like in 2009.
I think there were more issues then his accuracy. I will agree with you on the fact that no QB will do well with out protection.
JC has had 5 yrs. He's shown little improvement. There is not another position on this team that would be getting 5 yrs of mediocre talent with out getting traded or cut. Hell some of you are already done with Thomas and Kelly.
Did JC's 08 season start out well looking to be a Pro Bowl season and possible MVP? Yes. Then our OL did break down and other teams figured out how to beat JC. Find a way to disquise the rush and confuse the hell out of him prior to the snap and he's done.
GTripp0012
03-29-2010, 06:44 PM
I think there were more issues then his accuracy. I will agree with you on the fact that no QB will do well with out protection.
JC has had 5 yrs. He's shown little improvement. There is not another position on this team that would be getting 5 yrs of mediocre talent with out getting traded or cut. Hell some of you are already done with Thomas and Kelly.
Did JC's 08 season start out well looking to be a Pro Bowl season and possible MVP? Yes. Then our OL did break down and other teams figured out how to beat JC. Find a way to disquise the rush and confuse the hell out of him prior to the snap and he's done.Two back to back falsehoods there, although the latter is dependent on the former falsehood.
In general, I agree with your conclusion that we're screwed if the defense we're playing can be creative enough to attack from all different angles, and you're stuck doing the same vanilla blocking because the team isn't healthy enough to practice blocking schemes as a unit for the upcoming week. That pretty much kills any vertical attack that an offense featuring our receivers may have.
GusFrerotte
03-29-2010, 07:07 PM
Still think folks are too enamored with these guys. All, but Clausen come from big time programs, stacked with talent, that take on average to below average opponents 90% of the time. When the hype machine is working on overtime for a player, I think the red flags need to automatically come out with recent draft history as our guide. THe only hyped up QBs during the draft in say the last what 10-15 years to produce a Lombardi both were named Manning. McNabb came close, but no cigar. Still, my point is the percentage of these overhyped college QBs making it isn't so hot. You mean to tell me all of a sudden at his pro day Tebow improved his mechanics? Bradford looked like a god at his? Sorry folks, I do watch college football. Tebow looks more like a game manager than a real QB when I watched him in the big games, and that is what he will be facing just about every week in the NFL in the age of parity. Bradford is the only one that has a real good shot at franchise status, but he too benefitted from playing on a stacked team in a conference that had a down year overall(TX ran away with it) and not known for solid defensive play. As for Clausen, he did play on a decent team, that underachieved, and ND kindly declined the bowl bid(the honorable thing to do). If anybody wants Clausen, might as well look at Lefevour, Stull, Kafka, Crompton, etc. I mean seriously. Shuler was the #1 stud and we got Frerotte in the seventh. Who ended up being the starter and making the pro bowl? Limiting ourselves to just the QBs that garner the headlines because they are on bigtime programs is absurd and can hurt us in the quest for a true franchise QB.
GusFrerotte
03-29-2010, 07:10 PM
i completely agree with you. there's just something special about tebow. too me, he's got that "it factor" we always hear about.
Don't believe the hype. They thought Carr and Harrington were the shit. Don't get me going about Leinart!!!!!! Tebow is only great when playing the likes of Vandy, OLe Miss, or Florida Atlantic. Other than that he is an above average QB.
Son Of Man
03-29-2010, 08:57 PM
I have a clear record as a McCoy supporter so my choice would be the UT star. However, I would trust Shanny and support the drafting of Tim Tebow (alot of upside).
GusFrerotte
03-29-2010, 09:08 PM
We should keep JC through 2011 and draft Mallet or Keenum from Houston since we have a nice down the field system in the works with Kyle.
Dirtbag59
03-29-2010, 09:17 PM
Don't believe the hype. They thought Carr and Harrington were the shit. Don't get me going about Leinart!!!!!! Tebow is only great when playing the likes of Vandy, OLe Miss, or Florida Atlantic. Other than that he is an above average QB.
Leinart would have been great if it wasn't for his party habits. He still has a chance to be a top flight QB, but I'm surprised as anyone at how much he's flopped over the last few years.
GMScud
03-29-2010, 09:17 PM
My faith in the chosen one shall protect me. You on the other hand should know full well what to expect just pray the mighty Tebow makes it quick.
Still smarter then going against the chosen one. Tebow is the football savior, the great white hope, and whatever else his heart desires. All those Chuck Norris jokes were originally Tebow facts, but because his highness is so humble he decided to save the career of Chuck Norris.
LMAO!! And SmootSmack, how dare you pick Dolt McCoy over SuperMan!! :)
Did you know that crop circles weren't made by aliens? They are Tim Tebow's way of telling corn that sometimes it needs to lay the eff down.
I would take Tebow in a heartbeat over Colt for reasons I've stated ad nauseum.