Nat's and O's - 2010 MLB Season

nyjer's got some issues.

that shoulder chip he gave to the card's catcher as he was crossing the plate when the catcher didnt even have the ball was straight garbage bush league crap. the cards catcher wasnt blocking the plate, he lifted his leg up to let nyjer tag home base and the ball wasnt coming to the catcher any time soon.

the collision at the plate with the marlins catcher that ended the catchers season was more iffy than the media seems to view it. the ball was coming to home plate, the catcher had just caught the ball so i can see where that was a potential play-at-the-plate situation but nyjer seemed hell bent on contact with the cather as he rounded third. you can see in his body language he was looking for contact. the fact that he chipped the cards catcher when there was no reason what so ever makes me think he wanted contact on this one even if he could have just easily and safely slid in.

the stealing of the bases would have been bush league imo if it was later in the game but in the 4th inning you still have a chance.

when its a blow out in the 7th inning, then yes, pitchers pitch them in teh strike zone and batters are supposed to swing the bat and not take pitches. but the 4th inning, he should be allowed to maximize eveyr chance at winning.

nyjer's taunts and curses to the crowd is bush league.

he should get a 10-15 game suspension when you add up all of his actions from the cards game to the present.

hitting that cards catcher was evidence he was looking to hit someone. its no coincidence that the next game or so later he takes a guy out and ends his season.

what comes around goes around. ill be happy if someone slams the nats cather on an unnecessary play.

Unless I missed it, you didn't even mention when he threw a ball into the stands in Philly when some fans were playfully taunting him or when the threw down his glove while the ball was still in play because he thought it bounced off his glove and went out of the field of play.

I love his energy, but sometimes I worry we've got another Milton Bradley on our hands

I agree. I love how he plays...just as Pete Rose and George Brett. Sports are meant to be played with intensity and effort. But, he seems like an immature idiot at times. I'm just waiting for him to pull a Delmon Young or Izzy Alcantara.

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Nyjer has got some issues. The hit on the Cards catcher was uncalled for. He should be hit for that. The hit on the Marlins catcher was uncalled for too, as he wasn't even blocking the plate. He could have done a normal slide and been safe, no issues. I have no problems w/ him being hit there either.

I don't really understand though why stealing 2 bases is a problem though. I know being down 10 runs, you rarely steal, b/c you need as many runs as possible to get back into it. However, you are down and if you can steal go for it. Now, he did slide HARD into both bags.

So to get plunked again, i don't know that i blame him for going out. All of the other taunting afterwards is stupid.

Personally I don't feel what Nyjer did was wrong.

What he did against the St. Louis catcher wasn't even bad. Everyone is talking hit this and that, please, he didn't hit him, he bumped into him. Sure it was stupid and poor on his part and we suspended him one game for it, but lets not hype it up people. We even apologized to the catcher and Tony after the game.

What happened in Florida, I stand by Morgan 110%. He ran the catcher over on Monday, everyone keeps making a big deal over it and I don't know why. The catcher was blocking the plate, their excuse, "he could have slid," yeah he COULD have, but if he felt he had a better chance scoring running the catcher over, he has every right to do it.

They are all complaining because waa waa he's gone for the year, who gives a flying F. The Marlins aren't making the playoffs nor have a chance to.

Then last night. They hit him once, clearly payback for hitting their catcher, whatever, it is what it is. He knew it, I knew it, I'm sure everyone knew it, he let it slide. Of course in return he stole the two bases. Again was "wrong" according the tards on Baseball Tonight. Yet we still almost made the comeback.

Trying to hit him again, that's gloves off and throw down time. You don't do that crap and personally I'm glad Morgan wasn't going to take shit from anyone. I love in the post game how he said he'd do it all over again, except make a better connection on the hit.

Love how Riggleman said he supported him 100% as well, but more so when he said, "The Marlins will not decide when we run, we will decide when we run."

The only thing that I would say was poor on Morgans part was taunting the crowd, definitely stupid, but nonetheless hilarious, I was just laughing.

I still believe if we were the Yankees or Red Sox there wouldn't be any problem over what has happened with the Marlins this series. ESPN seems to ALWAYS have it out for Washington teams, no matter who it is.

Nyjer has got some issues. The hit on the Cards catcher was uncalled for. He should be hit for that. The hit on the Marlins catcher was uncalled for too, as he wasn't even blocking the plate. He could have done a normal slide and been safe, no issues. I have no problems w/ him being hit there either.

I don't really understand though why stealing 2 bases is a problem though. I know being down 10 runs, you rarely steal, b/c you need as many runs as possible to get back into it. However, you are down and if you can steal go for it. Now, he did slide HARD into both bags.

So to get plunked again, i don't know that i blame him for going out. All of the other taunting afterwards is stupid.Ironically I actually completely agree with Dibble on this one. (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/09/rob_dibble_on_the_nyjer_morgan.html?wprss=dcsports bog) As a teenager Morgan was basically on the verge of becoming an NHL defender but he realized he wasn't getting much bigger so he decided to switch to baseball, but I think he still has some of that hockey player mentality.

Like InsaneBoost said, I love Riggleman's comments after the game. He might not be the best manager out there but I feel like you have to respect him. Also, I like that Slaten later popped Gabby Sanchez in retaliation for clothes-lining Morgan. I know Sanchez was standing up for his pitcher but he came in a with a big time sucker punch. Actually, I feel like the umps brought that on themselves by not tossing Sanchez right after the brawl.

Remember, Morgan is also currently set to appeal a pending 7 game suspension on Tuesday. Good luck getting that suspension revoked.

I'm a fan of his and the Nationals, but I'm not going to defend his actions the past week just because I'm a fan.

Personally I don't feel what Nyjer did was wrong.

What he did against the St. Louis catcher wasn't even bad. Everyone is talking hit this and that, please, he didn't hit him, he bumped into him. Sure it was stupid and poor on his part and we suspended him one game for it, but lets not hype it up people. We even apologized to the catcher and Tony after the game.

What happened in Florida, I stand by Morgan 110%. He ran the catcher over on Monday, everyone keeps making a big deal over it and I don't know why. The catcher was blocking the plate, their excuse, "he could have slid," yeah he COULD have, but if he felt he had a better chance scoring running the catcher over, he has every right to do it.

They are all complaining because waa waa he's gone for the year, who gives a flying F. The Marlins aren't making the playoffs nor have a chance to.

Then last night. They hit him once, clearly payback for hitting their catcher, whatever, it is what it is. He knew it, I knew it, I'm sure everyone knew it, he let it slide. Of course in return he stole the two bases. Again was "wrong" according the tards on Baseball Tonight. Yet we still almost made the comeback.

Trying to hit him again, that's gloves off and throw down time. You don't do that crap and personally I'm glad Morgan wasn't going to take shit from anyone. I love in the post game how he said he'd do it all over again, except make a better connection on the hit.

Love how Riggleman said he supported him 100% as well, but more so when he said, "The Marlins will not decide when we run, we will decide when we run."

The only thing that I would say was poor on Morgans part was taunting the crowd, definitely stupid, but nonetheless hilarious, I was just laughing.

I still believe if we were the Yankees or Red Sox there wouldn't be any problem over what has happened with the Marlins this series. ESPN seems to ALWAYS have it out for Washington teams, no matter who it is.

Agree with all of this. :food-smil

Remember, Morgan is also currently set to appeal a pending 7 game suspension on Tuesday. Good luck getting that suspension revoked.

I'm a fan of his and the Nationals, but I'm not going to defend his actions the past week just because I'm a fan.I can in no way defend his actions when it comes to throwing the ball into the stands. Yes, he deserves punishment for that and I'm sure the league and the courts will probably both have something in store for him soon.

However, I can defend his actions when it comes to this week. In both cases of plowing over the catcher, yes, he probably could have slid and been called safe but collisions at the plate happen. Hell, if you think you have a chance to knock the ball out of the catchers hand you go for it, just rewatch the end of A League of Their Own (sort of kidding).
When did it become not okay to run over a catcher? Pete Rose did it in a freaking All Star game and that's considered an iconic moment in baseball.

So fine, he hurts the Marlins catcher on Tuesday on a close play (close enough that he was called out) and so they plunk him on Wednesday. He took that one like a man. This stuff about an unwritten rule that says you don't steal when you're down by X amount of runs is complete BS. Okay, maybe if it was like the 8th or 9th inning but it was the 4th!!! If Morgan wants to risk being picked off who cares!
All that throwing behind him is going to do is lead to a fight, which is exactly what happened. Yes, he looked like an idiot leaving the field but whatever.

Like he said after the game, hit him once and that's okay, it's expected even, but to hit him again is just crossing the line.

I can in no way defend his actions when it comes to throwing the ball into the stands. Yes, he deserves punishment for that and I'm sure the league and the courts will probably both have something in store for him soon.

However, I can defend his actions when it comes to this week. In both cases of plowing over the catcher, yes, he probably could have slid and been called safe but collisions at the plate happen. Hell, if you think you have a chance to knock the ball out of the catchers hand you go for it, just rewatch the end of A League of Their Own (sort of kidding).
When did it become not okay to run over a catcher? Pete Rose did it in a freaking All Star game and that's considered an iconic moment in baseball.

So fine, he hurts the Marlins catcher on Tuesday on a close play (close enough that he was called out) and so they plunk him on Wednesday. He took that one like a man. This stuff about an unwritten rule that says you don't steal when you're down by X amount of runs is complete BS. Okay, maybe if it was like the 8th or 9th inning but it was the 4th!!! If Morgan wants to risk being picked off who cares!
All that throwing behind him is going to do is lead to a fight, which is exactly what happened. Yes, he looked like an idiot leaving the field but whatever.

Like he said after the game, hit him once and that's okay, it's expected even, but to hit him again is just crossing the line.

I don't believe his collision with Anderson (the Cards catcher) had anything to do with trying to be safe at the plate. Anderson wasn't covering the plate and didn't have the ball.

Assuming the Phillies fan isn't lying, I think it would be pathetic for him to be suspended because he tossed the ball up in the stands for a fan and someone who wasn't paying attention got hit on the arm. Players do that all the time for fans, home and away. If you aren't paying attention, shame on you.

I've NEVER seen Morgan throw it in the stands hard, I have seen him do exactly what the Phillies fan said hundreds of time, rainbow it into the stands.