I Apologize

Whatever you say.

Obama increased the deficit by $1 trillion in his first year in office. Adjusting for inflation, your Lord's first year spending was about 21% of what Clinton spent his entire 8 years in office. He's shattering spending records.

That's real, despite what you'd like to believe.

Of course, you're not taking in consideration that we just went through the biggest recession since the great depression?

Of course, you're not taking in consideration that we just went through the biggest recession since the great depression?

Honestly, I'm over it for today. I'm having a drink and trying to enjoy the remainder of my night. I know better than to get into all these political conversations, yet I do it anyway. Doing it after a drink or two is definitely not smart.

Cheers to all, even you Saden1. :)

Honestly, I'm over it for today. I'm having a drink and trying to enjoy the remainder of my night. I know better than to get into all these political conversations, yet I do it anyway. Doing after a drink or two is definitely not smart.

Cheers to all, even you Saden1. :)

I must say your punctuation is excellent for a someone who's been drinking. Have a good night buddy.

I must say your punctuation is excellent for a someone who's been drinking. Have a good night buddy.

Well, I'm on my first drink. Give me an hour. ;)

The notion Reagan and the retarded Bush were fiscal conservatives is just asinine nonsense.The notion that Reagan WASN'T a fiscal conservative is asinine nonsense.

Bush agree with you on that one, but most conservatives understand Bush 2 wasn't a fiscal conservative.

Of course, you're not taking in consideration that we just went through the biggest recession since the great depression?

Yes and that trillion was pretty much wasted and everything he said it would do it has not done.

All I can say is that the country needs the Redskins to win the SB so that all the Dems and Reps in DC can finally be unified on a subject. Clearly the dearth of civility in politics coincides with the decline of the Skins into NFL purgatory, and we must have our team ascend in order to save our country!

Truth is your boy Bush done fucked shit up real bad and passed on a disgusting budget outlay to Lord Obama...I know you don't want to admit it and love kicking Obama in the nuts but your people done fucked shit up. They cut taxes, spend a ton, used budgetary gimmicks to hide spending, and finally kicked the ball to our savior, Lord Obama.Who isn't doin ish with the problem but making it greater and kicking it further down the road. "Compassionate Conservative" or "Hope and Change", who the hell is going to deal with this?

"Based on the 2010 U.S. budget, total national debt will nearly double in dollar terms between 2008 and 2015 and will grow to nearly 100% of GDP, versus a level of approximately 80% in early 2009.[61] (http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-60) Multiple government sources including the current and previous presidents, the GAO, Treasury Department, and CBO have said the U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path.[62] (http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-61)"

Unless we get folks in office that really care about getting our financial house in order, we're all in for a kick in the nuts when a VAT is enacted to "pay down the defecit".

Who isn't doin ish with the problem but making it greater and kicking it further down the road. "Compassionate Conservative" or "Hope and Change", who the hell is going to deal with this?

"Based on the 2010 U.S. budget, total national debt will nearly double in dollar terms between 2008 and 2015 and will grow to nearly 100% of GDP, versus a level of approximately 80% in early 2009.[61] (http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-60) Multiple government sources including the current and previous presidents, the GAO, Treasury Department, and CBO have said the U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path.[62] (http://www.thewarpath.net/#cite_note-61)"

Unless we get folks in office that really care about getting our financial house in order, we're all in for a kick in the nuts when a VAT is enacted to "pay down the defecit".

Have you looked at Paul Ryan's deficit reduction plan? It's garbage...no one has the balls to cut anything or tax anyone.

Have you looked at Paul Ryan's deficit reduction plan? It's garbage...no one has the balls to cut anything or tax anyone.Interesting take by Bruce Bartlett. I may read his new book.

Paul Ryan's Budgetary Holy Grail - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/11/cut-spending-taxes-budget-medicare-paul-ryan-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html)

Also good info from Heritage.

The Three Biggest Myths About Tax Cuts and the Budget Deficit | The Heritage Foundation (http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/06/The-Three-Biggest-Myths-About-Tax-Cuts-and-the-Budget-Deficit)

While I agree mostly with Heritage's take, I would advocate implementing the FairTax and temporarily elevate the rate with the elevated % of it exclusively for debt reduction and not put into the general fund. Once the entitlement programs/debt interest are reformed and under control the rate would reduce to a "normal" rate.