NFL Might Suspend Players for Violent Hits

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SBXVII
10-20-2010, 03:57 PM
The way I understand it it's all about "intent" to hit with the helmet. I think there's a fine line between two large athletes running at full throttle, leading with the helmet and a violent collision that makes helmet contact first.

I hope the refs won't go to the extreme with this new ruling and penalize a player simply because he laid somone's ass out. It is still football.

Yeah me either. Would the hit a year ago on Portis fall into the catagory?

Safety is one thing but to inact rules that keep defenders from doing their job is crazy. Can't touch the WR, can't hit WR, can't horse collar WR, soon to be can't try to take WR's legs out from under him. Hey why don't they just put flags on the WR's? every one else is fair game, but QB's and WR's will wear flags as in flag football. No hitting. Get the flag before the ball is thrown it's a sack. touch a flag prior to the WR catching the ball it's a foul. Grab it after and he's down where the flag was grabbed. ;)

Kope
10-20-2010, 04:21 PM
**** EDIT****

Deleted a big rant :) Just not a fan of the Protect the investment - I mean offensive player - at the expense of the game. Nothing to see here...move along.

saden1
10-20-2010, 04:35 PM
The way I understand it it's all about "intent" to hit with the helmet. I think there's a fine line between two large athletes running at full throttle, leading with the helmet and a violent collision that makes helmet contact first.

I hope the refs won't go to the extreme with this new ruling and penalize a player simply because he laid somone's ass out. It is still football.

To me Intent just means "have they done this before and is it a habit?" If yes then it's clear they think it is OK to play recklessly and truly want to hurt someone. Last I checked the game is not about hurting the opposing team's players (even if they are Cowboys).

MTK
10-20-2010, 04:42 PM
Am I alone in thinking a lot of folks are making a much bigger deal out of this than it really is?

Last week was a bad week as far as dangerous hits go, the NFL is making like they're dropping the hammer on this, but in reality once the dust settles they know that big hits are a part of the game. That's not going to change. They're just trying to reduce the potential for the major injuries... concussions, paralysis, etc. It's a hot button issue for the league right now and they have to at least put up the front that they are aware of it and trying to address it.

It's not going to become flag football. Yes hitting is a part of the game, but the league is right in being concerned about traumatic injuries.

Longtimefan
10-20-2010, 06:08 PM
Who's "Soup"?

And, in my opinion, we got lucky on that Jarmon hit. It looked clearly like hlelmet to helmet to me. I think so long as you don't lead with your helmet you should be ok. Wrapping up is the more fundamental way to do it, but really it's the knock out shots that cause the turnovers. I think more is being made of this right now than will actually come out of it.

It's the knock-out shots that gets these guys on the jacked-up replays. Players love it as long as they're not the ones getting jacked.

Swarley
10-20-2010, 06:41 PM
Am I alone in thinking a lot of folks are making a much bigger deal out of this than it really is?

Last week was a bad week as far as dangerous hits go, the NFL is making like they're dropping the hammer on this, but in reality once the dust settles they know that big hits are a part of the game. That's not going to change. They're just trying to reduce the potential for the major injuries... concussions, paralysis, etc. It's a hot button issue for the league right now and they have to at least put up the front that they are aware of it and trying to address it.

It's not going to become flag football. Yes hitting is a part of the game, but the league is right in being concerned about traumatic injuries.

I'm with you. After reading this on the Redskins blog Ive realized we've pretty much seen this story play our before.

Back in November of 2007, two NFL players -- in two separate games -- were fined for helmet-to-helmet hits; the week prior, a young quarterback named Matt Schaub was concussed by a similar hit. The NFL reacted with shock and horror, the director of football operations said that the league would be paying special attention to shots against defenseless receivers, and officiating crews were told to eject players from the game for helmet-to-helmet hits.

Feel free to stop me when this sounds familiar.


Redskins Blog -- The Official Blog of the Washington Redskins (http://blog.redskins.com/)

MTK
10-21-2010, 08:53 AM
Honestly I watched the video and thought it was not as bad as it ended up. Yeah it's helmet to helmet but I'm confused as to how the WR ended up with a concussion because it really didn't look like the hit was that hard. Helmets tap and WR goes to the ground.

Now look at the Desean Jackson hit. That to me was vicious but it looked like the shoulder hit not the helmet.

I think it goes back to this... if the players don't want to subject themselves to these type of hits they would get out of football and use their college degree. I find it funny that it's the NFL and who knows congress? that are trying to change the rules but the players themselves and owners are not. I have yet to hear a player get on tv and say we need to change the rules, or something needs to be done. All I keep hearing is "hey it's football, thats what we signed up for it could happen to any one of us."

You don't even need to get hit in the head to suffer a concussion. The violent whiplash motion of a big hit is enough to jar the brain against the inside of the skull.

MTK
10-21-2010, 09:27 AM
YouTube - Sport Science: NFL Concussions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFkWTGKNLT8&feature=player_embedded#at=46)

Longtimefan
10-21-2010, 10:23 AM
IOTO there's a way to play the game where hard-hits can be just as inclusive as form tackling. However, what I do feel is reason for concern are the hits that appear to be blatant and administered with the intent to injure or maim. To hear a player say "It's not his intention to injure, but to hurt" creates a statement of intent difficult to decipher.

Now, I know the way the game is being played today differs greatly from the past, but consider when the protections players wore at one time would in no way suffice to adaquately protect them from the violence we see exhibited in todays game. Listening to players defend their actions on the way hits are applied now, basically saying they have no problem with it, I wonder what their stance would be if they were playing without the safeguards like their predecessors.

MTK
10-21-2010, 12:42 PM
Harrison returns to Steelers after cooling-off day | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/sports/harrison-returns-to-steelers-687130.html)

Shocker. Probably didn't take long to realize that walking away from a $50M contract wouldn't be the smartest thing in the world.

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