mredskins
11-05-2010, 12:45 PM
Just becasue they are making fun of him or anyone else that is different doesn't makes it right and IMO the mom has ever right to bitch about them if they have ever right to make fun of him. Two way street.
What would you do if this was your son?mredskins 11-05-2010, 12:45 PM Just becasue they are making fun of him or anyone else that is different doesn't makes it right and IMO the mom has ever right to bitch about them if they have ever right to make fun of him. Two way street. ArtMonkDrillz 11-05-2010, 12:49 PM Schneed10, I've always considered myself a realist so I can't disagree with anything you're saying. SmootSmack 11-05-2010, 12:51 PM Like I said in my first post, it's not really cool for other parents to react to it, but it's 100% normal for other kids in the class to make fun of him. For christ's sakes, it's a little boy dressed as a girl with a wig and a dress and everything. I would have had a field day as a 5 year old. That's not society's bullshit, that's how little kids form social norms from a young age. Like I said, as long as they're not so relentless that he wants to jump off a bridge, then being made fun of by your classmates for stuff like this is totally normal, and happens in schools every day. Yet it seems the kids had no problem with the costume hooskins 11-05-2010, 12:51 PM I don't agree with those norms and hence why I called it society's bullshit. Those norms are created based what they see around them, parents, movies, ads, television, etc. If those things didn't exist(not suggesting they shouldn't and not suggesting it is even feasible, just proving my point) kids wouldn't feel that way and make fun of him. MonkFan4Life 11-05-2010, 01:12 PM What if that was my son ? It wouldn't be. Point blank. I love my little boy to death, but I was raised a certain way and my son will know what it for females and what is for males. Just not for me. I know this isn't on the same level but if my son started chewing with his mouth open I wouldn't say hey son go on and be who you want to be. I say, Bernard, chew with your mouth closed son. If my son said hey dad I want to dress up as Dora, I'd say no son, You can go as Diego because Dora is a girl and you are a boy. If my son wanted to wear a Redskins Cheerleader outfit either, you want some Skins gear you better rock this sweatsuit or a jersey. My son will be who he will be no matter what I do but as a parent it's my job to steer him in the best way possible as I see it. He, much like I did, will choose which way he wants to go. I wasn't raised to curse but I do. Wasn't raised to burn trees, but I have. Wasn't raised to drink, I just finished having 2 Remy's and a MGD. As far as the mother, I can't say that I'm proud of her but that's her child and she can do whatever she wants when it comes to him. But if it's my boy, no chance. And Schneed I agree with you, I would have had a field day with that little boy until he started crying and I got in trouble but I would've taken that L for real. Couldn't have pased up the chance to break out some new material on a little dude dressd as Daphne,....and he had the purple boot covers PLUS the handbag ? ArtMonkDrillz 11-05-2010, 01:13 PM I don't agree with those norms and hence why I called it society's bullshit. Those norms are created based what they see around them, parents, movies, ads, television, etc. If those things didn't exist(not suggesting they shouldn't and not suggesting it is even feasible, just proving my point) kids wouldn't feel that way and make fun of him.Ideally you're right, but the harsh truth is the world isn't like that. SmootSmack is right, it's very interesting that the kids didn't seem to care and it is sad that at some point they probably will because of the bias they see around them. However, I do think attitudes are starting to change and I do think that people are becoming more open minded but that kind of societal shift takes years and possibly generations to happen. Monkeydad 11-05-2010, 01:19 PM Sounds like to me this mother is trying to persuade her son to be gay later in life. NO CHILD knows anything about sexual preference at age 5. Kids in normal, healthy environments are not exposed to or think about sex when they've only been alive for 60 months old. Sounds like this mother is trying to create some kind of living environment that would either push the son towards homosexuality or just have some kind of liberal "show them options even if they're too young to make the decision". 5-year old kids need to be interested in things like Scooby Doo. Not crossdressing. A good parent would not put their child in a situation where they will definitely be degraded or made fun of. Your son wants to wear makeup and a wig to school? Explain to them the differences between genders then and let HIM know he should dress appropriately for a little boy. What if your son wanted to wear a KKK costume because he thought it was a ghost or mistakenly interpreted it as a superhero costume? A parent needs to set right and wrong, age appropriateness and simply protect their child from inevitable consequences for trying to make a controversial statement with a child. This is no better than putting your kid in a political protest holding a sign about abortion or war...they're just not appropriate issues for a child. To me, it sounds like the mother KNEW this reaction would occur and wants to use that poor child to make a statement and create a debate or controversy on her social/political beliefs. The other kids, who don't understand sexual preferences and crossdressing...just did what they naturally did and laughed at the boy dressed like a girl. I bet they'd laugh if a kid came in dressed as a doughnut with sprinkles too, it's just an unexpected surprise to them. However, to other parents and faculty, the sight was likely far from funny. It's probably a disturbing sight seeing a child put in a sure situation to get mocked, while being confused about his gender and raised in a questionable learning environment at home. Homosexuality is a choice, it's not genetic. It's a choice made sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously...and it's a result of the environment and experiences as the person approaches adulthood. So many sexual abuse victims become sexually-confused later in life. This kid is being set out on the path choosing homosexuality later in life, by his own mother. Quite sickening with the disease rates, health risks and moral issues that comes with the lifestyle. A mother should want to protect a son, not indoctrinate him and set him up for a lot of grief and possible danger later in life. Way to ruin Halloween and possibly a child's upbringing, woman. hooskins 11-05-2010, 01:20 PM Look I view myself as a realist too, but if I think something is wrong I am not going to just accept the status quo as a part of society. If we did that we would still be killing witches and enslaving races. SmootSmack 11-05-2010, 01:38 PM Sounds like to me this mother is trying to persuade her son to be gay later in life. NO CHILD knows anything about sexual preference at age 5. Kids in normal, healthy environments are not exposed to or think about sex when they've only been alive for 60 months old. Sounds like this mother is trying to create some kind of living environment that would either push the son towards homosexuality or just have some kind of liberal "show them options even if they're too young to make the decision". 5-year old kids need to be interested in things like Scooby Doo. Not crossdressing. A good parent would not put their child in a situation where they will definitely be degraded or made fun of. Your son wants to wear makeup and a wig to school? Explain to them the differences between genders then and let HIM know he should dress appropriately for a little boy. What if your son wanted to wear a KKK costume because he thought it was a ghost or mistakenly interpreted it as a superhero costume? A parent needs to set right and wrong, age appropriateness and simply protect their child from inevitable consequences for trying to make a controversial statement with a child. This is no better than putting your kid in a political protest holding a sign about abortion or war...they're just not appropriate issues for a child. To me, it sounds like the mother KNEW this reaction would occur and wants to use that poor child to make a statement and create a debate or controversy on her social/political beliefs. The other kids, who don't understand sexual preferences and crossdressing...just did what they naturally did and laughed at the boy dressed like a girl. I bet they'd laugh if a kid came in dressed as a doughnut with sprinkles too, it's just an unexpected surprise to them. However, to other parents and faculty, the sight was likely far from funny. It's probably a disturbing sight seeing a child put in a sure situation to get mocked, while being confused about his gender and raised in a questionable learning environment at home. Homosexuality is a choice, it's not genetic. It's a choice made sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously...and it's a result of the environment and experiences as the person approaches adulthood. So many sexual abuse victims become sexually-confused later in life. This kid is being set out on the path choosing homosexuality later in life, by his own mother. Quite sickening with the disease rates, health risks and moral issues that comes with the lifestyle. A mother should want to protect a son, not indoctrinate him and set him up for a lot of grief and possible danger later in life. Way to ruin Halloween and possibly a child's upbringing, woman. I dressed up as Benjamin Franklin when I was 5...and now I fly kites in the rain, churn my own butter and run an apothecary Well he did go as Daphne from Scooby Doo, and had dressed up as Scooby himself the previous couple of years The kids weren't the issue, it was the moms who were saying stuff firstdown 11-05-2010, 01:48 PM Probably a single mom and why is she calling him gay. | |
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