Another Massive Wiki Leak

Sunshine is the best disinfectant and anonymity is for cowards and the shady. I hope they keep it up and keep releasing info.I assume you don't have anyone close to you working in the State Dept. and stationed overseas. I will also assume you don't care about the safety and well being of our sources that are in unfriendly foregin gov'ts that may suddenly "disappear" once this information is made public. This is a devastating blow to our HUMINT capabilities. Potential contacts we could gather valuable info from will be much more reluctant to talk for fear of being outed. Keep in mind Bill Clinton's scaling back of our HUMINT capabilities and politcal fear to take out Bin Laden was a major contributing factor to 9/11.

I applaud Hillary for tasking our diplomats with aggressive HUMINT gathering. These WikiLeaks idiots will have blood on their hands within days/weeks of this info being released. I hope they meet the same fate as any of our sources who "disappear".

And instead of bitching perhaps United States should concentrate on securing their fcking data. If these guys can get it I wonder what the Chinese have.The place you can never secure 100% is from inside access to information. To get a more secure environment we would need to implement far more rigorous background screenings for military and intelligence personnel and also enforce harsh punishments for offenders; such as being charged with treason and life imprisonment without pardon or parole.

I assume you don't have anyone close to you working in the State Dept. and stationed overseas. I will also assume you don't care about the safety and well being of our sources that are in unfriendly foregin gov'ts that may suddenly "disappear" once this information is made public. This is a devastating blow to our HUMINT capabilities. Potential contacts we could gather valuable info from will be much more reluctant to talk for fear of being outed. Keep in mind Bill Clinton's scaling back of our HUMINT capabilities and politcal fear to take out Bin Laden was a major contributing factor to 9/11.

I applaud Hillary for tasking our diplomats with aggressive HUMINT gathering. These WikiLeaks idiots will have blood on their hands within days/weeks of this info being released. I hope they meet the same fate as any of our sources who "disappear".

The place you can never secure 100% is from inside access to information. To get a more secure environment we would need to implement far more rigorous background screenings for military and intelligence personnel and also enforce harsh punishments for offenders; such as being charged with treason and life imprisonment without pardon or parole.

You assume wrong...my cousin who I am very close to is a field operations director for USAID in Pakistan and Afghanistan right now and has been for the past 5 years. These leaks won't make any difference in her safety. She has previously told me that she's just as likely to die from a helicopter crash as she is from gunfire. Plus wnemies of the United States don't need excuses to kill Americans.

They need to secure their documents and insure their internal staff don't leak information. If they can't they shouldn't be in the business of doing shady shit that if revealed could bring about harm.

You assume wrong...my cousin who I am very close to is a field operations director for USAID in Pakistan and Afghanistan right now and has been for the past 5 years. These leaks won't make any difference in her safety. She has previously told me that she's just as likely to die from a helicopter crash as she is from gunfire. Plus wnemies of the United States don't need excuses to kill Americans.

They need to secure their documents and insure their internal staff don't leak information. If they can't they shouldn't be in the business of doing shady shit that if revealed could bring about harm.USAID is U.S. Agency for International Development, and not to say that some of their folks aren't involved with HUMINT activities on the down-low, but they're generally not an intelligence organization. You're correct, these leaks probably will have little to no affect on her safety.

That being said, folks who are in "diplomatic" roles working for State are many times a lot more than that. It's those folks that are in more jeopardy because of these leaks. Best case - some of our sources of info are just shut down temporarily....Worst case - some of our people or inside sources are imprisoned or killed.

You can never secure information 100% from a cleared insider with an axe to grind, and from the few things I've read these leaks may also be attributed to Private Bradley Manning. I worked at NSA for a short time while I was in the AF. Back in the day, this wouldn't have been possible because technology didn't allow for the access to the wide range of data that we have today. The systems were far more stove-piped and compartmentalization of info was much easier.

We have to stay in the business of doing shady shit to stop the folks that have ill-will towards us from doing more shady or murderous shit to us.

USAID is U.S. Agency for International Development, and not to say that some of their folks aren't involved with HUMINT activities on the down-low, but they're generally not an intelligence organization. You're correct, these leaks probably will have little to no affect on her safety.

That being said, folks who are in "diplomatic" roles working for State are many times a lot more than that. It's those folks that are in more jeopardy because of these leaks. Best case - some of our sources of info are just shut down temporarily....Worst case - some of our people or inside sources are imprisoned or killed.

You can never secure information 100% from a cleared insider with an axe to grind, and from the few things I've read these leaks may also be attributed to Private Bradley Manning. I worked at NSA for a short time while I was in the AF. Back in the day, this wouldn't have been possible because technology didn't allow for the access to the wide range of data that we have today. The systems were far more stove-piped and compartmentalization of info was much easier.

We have to stay in the business of doing shady shit to stop the folks that have ill-will towards us from doing more shady or murderous shit to us.

The danger angle is overplayed and overrated...what we are more likely to lose is trust and credibility. GMScud said it best:

I mean nobody should be surprised at any of the info in the leaks. Hell yes we do shady shit all the time as a country. Now we just have less deniability.

this guy is a totally prick and not helping anyone, i think he will be found soon dead from something "accidental"

Considering he stated big corporations are his next target (as in the content is already in his possession) I wouldn't be even remotely surprised if he has an "accident."

It almost feel like people want him to have an "accident." I wonder if they feel the same way about journalists who expose a big government scandal or whistle-blowers who expose malfeasance.

I am disgusted by the amount of vitriol directed at him and I hope he doesn't have an "accident." Wikileaks isn't just run by Julian Assange, they're a moderate sized operation with lots of volunteers not to mention the fact that big media, including American media, back them with legal issues. Plus the whole operation is distributed so Assanger having an "accident" isn't going to get rid of the problem.

Leak-o-nomy: The Economy ofÂ*Wikileaks (Interview with Julian Assange) | Medien-Ökonomie-Blog (http://stefanmey.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/leak-o-nomy-the-economy-of-wikileaks/)

Seems like a classic case of blaming the messenger rather than the true source.

WikiLeaks' Julian Assange Wants to Spill Your Corporate Secrets - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-wikileaks-business-media-assange_lander.html?boxes=businesschannellighttop)

My thing with this is what good comes out of this? Most of it seems to be kinda what everyone is thinking, but now its just written account or opinion. Think what people tend to forget is every country has its own written opinions and foreign strageties. I like the response one country said about the Clinton remarks which was something to the effect of "you should hear what we say about you," which is the right way to take many of the releases. But in a period where we are in the process of rebuilding relations around the world, having something that was said several years ago impact that current relationship is bothersome. There is the aspect of puting some in danger as well, especially our diaplomats. I dont see any good in it and yes i would enjoy transparency in foreign relations, but come on that fantasy world. You think other countries are transparent? lol

Matty while I agree with what you are saying, I do not think there is too much positive that comes out of this. Governments may just be more paranoid about communications now.

This is simply become like HS gossip. With nations being spoiled 16 year old girls trashing each other behind their back. The only result from it is a "battle" a la season finale of Bad Girls Club.