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EARTHQUAKE2689 01-21-2011, 03:05 PM Prince Amukamara - Huskers.com - Nebraska Athletics Official Web Site (http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=831150)
Patrick Peterson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Peterson)
Both are 6"1 200 plus.. I'd take either one IMO..
I'd be happy with either but I prefer Peterson
Terpfan76 01-21-2011, 03:08 PM I'd be happy with either but I prefer Peterson
I wonder if Peterson won't end up a safety. He has the size and is a pretty good hitter. Hell, both him and Prince have the size to play safety. Prince I think is better in coverage where as Peterson is a little more raw in coverage, but still better than most of our dbs lol.
GTripp0012 01-21-2011, 03:12 PM I like Christian Ponder a lot, but I think if I had my choice of him or Pat Devlin in round two, I'd take Devlin. I don't think there is a more accurate passer in this class than Devlin.
He's going to need work in under center formations because Delaware runs their pro style sets out of a pistol-like shotgun. But Flacco ran the same formations in the same offense, and he started on day one for the Ravens (thanks, tonsillitis!).
Devlin is more pro ready than Flacco was, is more accurate, and makes quicker decisions. On the down side, he's really not a great passer when flushed from the pocket by pressure. I was really impressed, instead, by his ability to stand in and deliver accurately with no space to step.
I think I'd value both Devlin and Ponder as late first rounders. Ponder throws the better deep ball of the two...at least evidenced in 2009, when his elbow wasn't an issue.
GTripp0012 01-21-2011, 03:22 PM Someone should give me a reason to really, really love Andy Dalton. I never watched the TCU offense with great confidence in the past couple of years, despite all the winning and all the weapons. Dalton has played horrible over certain stretches (first 33 minutes of the SMU game this year, for example). At the end of the day though, I can't really argue against Andy Dalton's accomplishments, and the scouts seem to think he's a real legit mid round pick.
I just wish there was a single thing about Dalton that suggested he was a pro prospect. When you are a mountain west QB who does everything well, and nothing great, that means you become an NFL third stringer. What am I missing on Dalton that would justify a day two pick on him?
Terpfan76 01-21-2011, 03:29 PM Ponder reminds me a lot of a more mobile Brad Johnson. Not that Johnson was a bad player, hell there were a couple years when he was on of the more under-appreciated qbs in football. That being said he was not a franchise qb and that's what we need. I really don't think there is a true franchise qb in this draft, but I feel that Locker fits the mold more than any of the other top qbs. Devlin interests me but not having a 3rd or 4th round pick makes me not so interested in going that way. We have too many positions that we could impact with this draft to risk chasing someone like Devlin in the second round. If we are able to acquire a 3rd and 4th via trading away McNabb and the Tub-O-Lard and possibly trading down in the first, I'd feel more comfortable "reaching" for a guy like Devlin or even Ponder. I guess I'm not as keen on Ponder as others.
Terpfan76 01-21-2011, 03:32 PM Someone should give me a reason to really, really love Andy Dalton. I never watched the TCU offense with great confidence in the past couple of years, despite all the winning and all the weapons. Dalton has played horrible over certain stretches (first 33 minutes of the SMU game this year, for example). At the end of the day though, I can't really argue against Andy Dalton's accomplishments, and the scouts seem to think he's a real legit mid round pick.
I just wish there was a single thing about Dalton that suggested he was a pro prospect. When you are a mountain west QB who does everything well, and nothing great, that means you become an NFL third stringer. What am I missing on Dalton that would justify a day two pick on him?
I've been thinking the same. I hear/see a lot of people singing Dalton's praises and hoping to get him, but I'm just not seeing why. I'm not for a moment suggesting he won't become a star, I just am not seeing what it is that has everyone so high on him.
SmootSmack 01-21-2011, 03:39 PM I like Christian Ponder a lot, but I think if I had my choice of him or Pat Devlin in round two, I'd take Devlin. I don't think there is a more accurate passer in this class than Devlin.
He's going to need work in under center formations because Delaware runs their pro style sets out of a pistol-like shotgun. But Flacco ran the same formations in the same offense, and he started on day one for the Ravens (thanks, tonsillitis!).
Devlin is more pro ready than Flacco was, is more accurate, and makes quicker decisions. On the down side, he's really not a great passer when flushed from the pocket by pressure. I was really impressed, instead, by his ability to stand in and deliver accurately with no space to step.
I think I'd value both Devlin and Ponder as late first rounders. Ponder throws the better deep ball of the two...at least evidenced in 2009, when his elbow wasn't an issue.
Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heard
GTripp0012 01-21-2011, 03:40 PM I've been thinking the same. I hear/see a lot of people singing Dalton's praises and hoping to get him, but I'm just not seeing why. I'm not for a moment suggesting he won't become a star, I just am not seeing what it is that has everyone so high on him.Thing is, Dalton has really, really spectacular numbers, I'm just struggling to find a NFL quality skill. He couldn't have gotten those numbers by accident/being in the right place at the right time, but he also would never have been considered a NFL type guy before this year.
I suppose you just don't know. He'll just have to be someone I keep an eye on at the combine. Could be a steal, could be a wasted pick.
GTripp0012 01-21-2011, 03:42 PM Devlin's been brutal this week at Shrine practice. Or so I have heardDT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14568368/nc-dt-austin-delaware-qb-devlin-shine-at-shrine-practice)
Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.
SmootSmack 01-21-2011, 04:07 PM DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14568368/nc-dt-austin-delaware-qb-devlin-shine-at-shrine-practice)
Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.
Without being there myself I can't say for sure
2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings (http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/1/19/1943789/2011-east-west-shrine-game-pat-devlin-getting-mixed-reviews)
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