MTK
05-12-2011, 11:10 AM
Jenkins would be a nice pickup for sure.
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MTK 05-12-2011, 11:10 AM Jenkins would be a nice pickup for sure. Dirtbag59 05-12-2011, 11:18 AM Jenkins would be a nice pickup for sure. Now all we have to do is add both Kris and Cullen and let the marketing department do the rest of the work. Lotus 05-12-2011, 11:32 AM First to post! Report: Mutual interest between Redskins, Cullen Jenkins | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/11/report-mutual-interest-between-redskins-cullen-jenkins/) If by savior you mean a player that absolutely commands respects and destroys teams that are foolish enough to experiment with one on one blocking then no. However if you mean a guy that will win one on one, draw double teams, and bring those to a stalmate then yes, I feel that Neild is that guy. Nose Tackle isn't a very... difficult position to train people. It's more about being strong willed and fighting then it is about skill. For now though I view Neild similarly to Chris Hoke of the Steelers. Yes they love having Casey Hampton at the nose but they know when he's injured or needs a rest they're in good hands with him. Also if you look at some of the guys starting at Nose Tackle in this league a good amount of them are in fact late round picks. (meaning rounds 4-7). I would argue differently. Look at Hampton (Steelers), Cody and Ngata (Ravens), Kris Jenkins and then their first two picks this year (Jets). These guys were all drafted high. The good 3-4 teams all invest high picks at NT. Yes, they may use low rounders to add depth. But a good 3-4 always has a stud starter at NT rather than a late-round fill-in. The poor 3-4 defenses are poor in part because they don't invest in a NT. We need a stud NT. BTW I am not arguing against getting Cullen Jenkins if the price is right. We also need help at DE and he would be a good acquisition. Longtimefan 05-12-2011, 11:39 AM [quote] "A 7th round choice and Bryant (mostly unproven) is not gonna cut it IMO. Our only true focus in free agency on the defensive side should be NT". [unquote] I have no problem with the possibility of Cullen Jenkins becoming a Redskin. In all fairness to our young players looking to be developed, I'm mindful of the fact that every successful player now in the NFL was at some point in his career "unproven". I do have a fondness for players looking to prove themselves, especially when it's with the team that drafted them. That fact alone is important to those driven by the desire to succeed. Dirtbag59 05-12-2011, 12:12 PM I would argue differently. Look at Hampton (Steelers), Cody and Ngata (Ravens), Kris Jenkins and then their first two picks this year (Jets). These guys were all drafted high. The good 3-4 teams all invest high picks at NT. Yes, they may use low rounders to add depth. But a good 3-4 always has a stud starter at NT rather than a late-round fill-in. The poor 3-4 defenses are poor in part because they don't invest in a NT. We need a stud NT. BTW I am not arguing against getting Cullen Jenkins if the price is right. We also need help at DE and he would be a good acquisition. Why do you hate Cullen Jenkins. We need help at DE, especially if the price is right. Why are you saying it would be "the worst acquisition's in the history of football?" By the way how do the quotes work on that last sentence. I mean I'm asking a question but I'm ending it with a quote that's a statement. Is it like this football?" or football"? Anyway if we want a veteran I would suggest Jamaal Williams. He's from the area and has been an elite NT in the past, I'm imagining that he's still good and the reason he was released by the Bronco's was due to their switch to a 4-3. Don't want Kris Jenkins though as we don't need another former Panther space eater with lower body problems. Lotus 05-12-2011, 12:59 PM Why do you hate Cullen Jenkins. We need help at DE, especially if the price is right. Why are you saying it would be "the worst acquisition's in the history of football?" By the way how do the quotes work on that last sentence. I mean I'm asking a question but I'm ending it with a quote that's a statement. Is it like this football?" or football"? Anyway if we want a veteran I would suggest Jamaal Williams. He's from the area and has been an elite NT in the past, I'm imagining that he's still good and the reason he was released by the Bronco's was due to their switch to a 4-3. Don't want Kris Jenkins though as we don't need another former Panther space eater with lower body problems. I have been misquoted before but you take it to a new level. :) Williams might not be bad but like KJenkins he's getting long in the tooth. Aubrayo Franklin would kick some butt but he's 30 and likely will demand $$$$. I think we should get Brandon Mebane - young, very capable, and likely not too expensive. We can add Cullen Jenkins, too. Then our DL will morph from perhaps the weakest unit on the team to a strong unit which will free Rak and Kerrigan to do the voodoo that they do so well. SirClintonPortis 05-12-2011, 03:25 PM I dunno, it seems like NT can be filled either with low rounders like Franklin and Garay or high rounders like Raji, Hampton, etc. So all these guys must have a certain skillset that makes the successful at NT despite their large perceived differences. Here's hoping Neild has that skillset. Dirtbag59 05-13-2011, 12:16 AM I dunno, it seems like NT can be filled either with low rounders like Franklin and Garay or high rounders like Raji, Hampton, etc. So all these guys must have a certain skillset that makes the successful at NT despite their large perceived differences. Here's hoping Neild has that skillset. Someone PLEASE explain Franklin to me. Is he franchised or not? Because if he's not then he should be a top priority. Dirtbag59 05-13-2011, 10:30 AM Someone PLEASE explain Franklin to me. Is he franchised or not? Because if he's not then he should be a top priority. Thank you PFT for explaining this to me before my PEERS. Aubrayo Franklin should get monster deal when lockout ends | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/13/aubrayo-franklin-should-get-monster-deal-when-lockout-ends/) Franklin has been a fine run stopper the last two years. The Redskins figure to be at the top of the list of teams that show interest in him. The Jets, Texans, Broncos, Vikings, and Seahawks also have a need, with the 3-4 teams making the most sense. Are you guys happy now. PFT just became more helpful then ALL OF YOU combined. MTK 05-13-2011, 10:33 AM Props to you for finding your own answer rather than relying on your worthless peers. ;) |
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