If We Do Not Select QB at #10.......

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PHazard
02-20-2011, 05:02 PM
I'd like to get Cameron Jordan @10 even if there is qb's available. He's ready to start as a 3-4 RE now. Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor) in the second round and then best available OLB, ILB, FS and CB to round out the draft. IMO, a defensive heavy draft this year to go with some good key young guys already on the roster (Jarmon, Barnes, Bryant, Carriker and Rob Jackson) and studs Landry and Orakpo is the best way to go.
We obviously didn't have 3-4 personnel before we made the change and it cost the 2010 season.

The pick really comes down to Marcell Dareus/Robert Quinn/Cameron Jordan if AJ Green and the QBs are off the board and we can't trade down. I dont agree with a defensive heavy draft. Our Defense, in part, played so poorly due to the fact they were ALWAYS on the field cuz our offense was inept. We couldnt run, didnt have WRs who could beat press, our QB was looking for the deep ball instead of progressing thru reads and we couldnt convert on 3rd down. We need OL, WR, and QB to go with OLB, DE, FS.

We dont need a RB cause i have trust in Torain/Davis/Williams. Especially Davis once he cleans up his Pass Protection. TE is set. I dont think ILB is a pressing need cuz Perry Riley looked leaps and bounds better than Rocky McIntosh in there. You just have to go BPA with all the spots we have to fill. I believe the Shanahans, if not in the 1st round, will trade back more than once.

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rypper11
02-20-2011, 07:53 PM
Why is everyone so high on this guy? He seems like another Adam Carriker, just getting noticed after senior bowl, type of prospect.

And to the other comment. I say if we don't get a QB in the first or second round this year, then don't bother getting one until next year, because after Newton Mallet Gabbert and Locker, the QB's in this years class suck. Yes even Andy the ginger Dalton isn't pro ready IMO, he's a backup in the NFL at best.

A starting line of Carriker, Taylor (not drafted yet) and Jordan would be very unglamorous but solid and very hard to run on. They should also free up even average LB's to make plays.

Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?

SkinzWin
02-20-2011, 08:19 PM
A starting line of Carriker, Taylor (not drafted yet) and Jordan would be very unglamorous but solid and very hard to run on. They should also free up even average LB's to make plays.

Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?

Not IMO. He is depth. Big difference. I don't see anyone in the organization making a push to develop his as a long term starter for this team. Let's face it, QB's are big hits or misses in this league. I say if you can get a QB in the mid to late rounds with projected upside, go for it. Look at Brady. Worked out for the Patriots nicely, didn't it?

CultBrennan59
02-20-2011, 10:55 PM
A starting line of Carriker, Taylor (not drafted yet) and Jordan would be very unglamorous but solid and very hard to run on. They should also free up even average LB's to make plays.

Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?

I would take Cameron Heyward, possibly JJ Watt, and Marcell Dareus over Jordan. I haven't seen much tape on Wilkerson of Temple, but I hear he's a beast.

But honestly, I wouldn't even take a DE with the 10th overall pick. I'd go for a CB WR or trading with NE getting some of there picks. This draft has a lot of great DL WRs and interior OLineman, which is what we need. So if we could I'd just get both of New England's first round picks I'd take like a Heyward and a Phil Taylor.

rypper11
02-21-2011, 08:14 AM
So if we could I'd just get both of New England's first round picks I'd take like a Heyward and a Phil Taylor.

Or even their own first and Carolina's second for the 10 spot. But who'd they want to trade up for? Picks 28, 33 and 41 should give us NT, DE and OLB that should all immediately start but I don't think the Pats have a desire to jump up to 10.

Lotus
02-21-2011, 11:25 AM
I'd like to get Cameron Jordan @10 even if there is qb's available. He's ready to start as a 3-4 RE now. Phil Taylor (NT, Baylor) in the second round and then best available OLB, ILB, FS and CB to round out the draft. IMO, a defensive heavy draft this year to go with some good key young guys already on the roster (Jarmon, Barnes, Bryant, Carriker and Rob Jackson) and studs Landry and Orakpo is the best way to go.
We obviously didn't have 3-4 personnel before we made the change and it cost the 2010 season.

Now here is a great comment. rypper intelligently wants to build our defensive line.

Last year's draft was tilted towards the offense. I think this year's should be tilted towards defense.

Monkeydad
02-21-2011, 12:12 PM
Your assessment of the QB and mine are the same. I'd rather have a season of Rexy (or a McNabb wanting to prove everyone wrong) over a Dalton or someone similar bumbling along. Isn't Beck a project?


Beck has started and shown what he can do. He's a backup at the highest, but if he needs to play, it won't be a disaster.

diehard
02-21-2011, 12:42 PM
Beck has started and shown what he can do. He's a backup at the highest, but if he needs to play, it won't be a disaster.It can't get much worse, that's for sure.

musicmaster45
02-21-2011, 02:18 PM
Yea of course IF AJ Green is there i would snap him up. I would also like Miller to compliment Orakapo. In the later rounds we need to address kicker, lets try for nebraskas kicker who is the most accurate and college history and a free saftey if OJ isn't signing with us. No one has even scratched the surface of sean taylor's spot.

Shadowbyte
02-22-2011, 12:46 AM
Based on his best plays it's apparent that Blaine Gabbert is better in the shotgun then being under center. However I do like his quick release and he has above average mobility. The one thing I noticed is his deep balls get there in a hurry, I wouldn't object at all to drafting this guy.

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