Dockett live tweets getting pulled over by police

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rbanerjee23
06-27-2011, 11:57 PM
Wow...how is this a big deal. The car was stopped, he wasn't driving relax -- athletes (and people in general) have done far worse things on twitter

SBXVII
06-28-2011, 01:16 AM
He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.

Ha, ha, Ok.

I'll say this... if the officer is "asking" to search your car then he/she more then likely does not have the probable cause to search inside. Be polite, be respectful, don't be sarcastic, simply say no because you don't have time for it because your late for a date or appointment or need to get home. The Supreme Court has said no means no. The police can not "swindle" you into letting them search the vehicle as in saying "why won't you let us search it? If you don't have anything to hide then you'd let us search it."

However keep in mind some officers do ask to search even though they have found probable cause to search. Why? I don't know. If you have the probable cause they simply should be saying "I'm going to search your car because I found (whatever) in your car." If they have it they will tell you.

But I laugh because technicall they can keep you on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs roughly per Supreme Court rulings. Depending on if you have been stopped before and contraband found depends on whether they will go through the whole process of getting a search warrant. It's much easier to simply call the K-9 to come sniff around your vehicle, which if the dog signals the vehicle has contrabrand inside is probable cause for the officer to search inside. On a side note.... sometimes when the dog smells contrabrand they tend to scratch at the vehicle sometimes leaving scratches on the outside, and if the dog hits and they send the dog inside because you still don't want to "get caught" the dog sometimes tears up the seats scratching at them if the contrabrand is inside or under them. I've never heard of someone successfully getting reimbursed for damage done to their vehicle when contrabrand has been found.

There is an old saying.... inocent people have nothing to hide. However I too don't like the overzealous officer. So .... if you got the time to sit on the side of the road for up to 2 hrs protecting your civil rights then enjoy it. But also remember .... if the officer is stopping you because you broke the law, the officer does have the option of writing you a ticket or taking you into custody, towing your vehicle (which requires a "inventory search"), and taking you to the Magistrate. No matter how petty the offense.

Simply put ... don't break the law. and most of all.......
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Meks
06-28-2011, 01:23 AM
He did the right thing, never let a cop search your car without a warrant.

Well they don't need a warrant for normal folks, they'll just claim the patriot act

saden1
06-28-2011, 08:26 AM
They didn't give him a ticket so I guess the officers were fcking morons for wasting tax payer money.

SmootSmack
06-28-2011, 08:35 AM
Wasn't Dockett the guy who ustreamed himself taking a shower or something like that

FRPLG
06-28-2011, 08:57 AM
They didn't give him a ticket so I guess the officers were fcking morons for wasting tax payer money.

This. Guess they gotta be sure the black guy driving a nice car isn't up to no good.

Chico23231
06-28-2011, 09:00 AM
Ive never been asked when Ive been pulled to search my vehicle. Def think their is a profiling component to that. Good thing about 8 years ago i was holding a couple dank nugs.

Monkeydad
06-28-2011, 09:54 AM
Wasn't Dockett the guy who ustreamed himself taking a shower or something like that

Yeah, that was him. He and Najeh Davenport would make good buddies I think.


I agree with McNabb too, Twitter is really only causing harm to these athletes. There is no censor, no chance to read over their words before submitting and no taking them back, even if they delete them, the media and fans will have screen shots forever.

Monkeydad
06-28-2011, 09:59 AM
This. Guess they gotta be sure the black guy driving a nice car isn't up to no good.

If he has his car modified to look "gangster" like a typical drug dealer/rapper's car, there would be legitimate suspicion. When I had my windows tinted dark in college, I got pulled over a couple of times without speeding or breaking any laws (other than the tint law) and I brought the attention on myself. They could not see into my car, so they had the right to be suspicious. I have no problem with them doing my job. My cars were never searched and I was never assaulted on those occasions. Let them do their job. I don't see a problem here, other then the live Tweets.

djnemo65
06-28-2011, 10:57 AM
If he has his car modified to look "gangster" like a typical drug dealer/rapper's car, there would be legitimate suspicion. When I had my windows tinted dark in college, I got pulled over a couple of times without speeding or breaking any laws (other than the tint law) and I brought the attention on myself. They could not see into my car, so they had the right to be suspicious. I have no problem with them doing my job. My cars were never searched and I was never assaulted on those occasions. Let them do their job. I don't see a problem here, other then the live Tweets.

The burden is on the police in a case like this (brief stop short of an arrest/probable cause) to provide articulable facts as to why they pulled the suspect over; a "hunch" based on what the cop thinks a drug dealer/rapper's car would typically look like is constitutionally deficient. (Working in criminal law this summer and just had a case dealing with this.) Now, if the officer observed the suspect committing a traffic offense, that would provide the reasonable suspicion necessary to effectuate a stop. In this case, the officer claimed that Docket was speeding, but I think that's highly suspect. Dockett says he wasn't speeding and they never issued him a ticket. Also, there is certainly no extant evidence indicating that Dockett's windows violated any tinting laws, you are just asserting that.

Look, I get what you are saying as a practical matter, don't get tinted windows and play loud rap music if you don't wanna get pulled over. But I think we all as Americans need to be a lot more vigorous in defending the Constitution. Dockett is someone who was stopped and detained in a manner that appears to me to have been constitutionally offensive. He knew his rights and fought back and hopefully taught those police officers a lesson, while providing a positive example for other Americans. Remember, the Constitution isn't there to protect criminals, it's there to protect innocent people like us. If you go to China the police can search you for anything they feel like, there are no legal standards, but this isn't China. The prohibition against arbitrary search and seizure was born of a world in which British soldiers harassed Americans with impunity. The minute we start excusing stuff like this the closer we get to reverting back to that world.

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