2012 QB Class

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GMScud
10-31-2011, 11:21 PM
I believe Landry Jones will be a good qb, but i believe that RG3 is more mobile and more accurate passing the football than both Jones and Barkley.

You're talking in circles. After you criticized me for saying I liked Jones over RG3, you then say Jones is the #2 QB in the draft behind Luck (http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/44776-2012-qb-class-2.html#post850941) , but now RG3 is once again better than Jones and Barkley? Make up your mind.

Landry44
10-31-2011, 11:37 PM
You're talking in circles. After you criticized me for saying I liked Jones over RG3, you then say Jones is the #2 QB in the draft behind Luck (http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/44776-2012-qb-class-2.html#post850941) , but now RG3 is once again better than Jones and Barkley? Make up your mind.
What is so confusing about what I'm saying? Landry Jones and Matt Barkley are both very good qbs, but RG3 is a better fit for what we do here. He's more accurate and more mobile than both Jones and Barkley. Do you disagree? If you disagree then you're only exposing your lack of football knowledge. If you agree then what are we talking about here?

skinsfaninok
10-31-2011, 11:41 PM
I've seen RG3 play and he's a better passer than some think BUT I'd rather have Barkely

GMScud
10-31-2011, 11:49 PM
What is so confusing about what I'm saying? Landry Jones and Matt Barkley are both very good qbs, but RG3 is a better fit for what we do here. He's more accurate and more mobile than both Jones and Barkley. Do you disagree? If you disagree then you're only exposing your lack of football knowledge. If you agree then what are we talking about here?

What exactly do "we do here?" The Shanny's inherited a mobile QB who was entrenched with this team (Campbell) and immediately shipped him off. Then we traded important picks for another mobile and accomplished QB and proceeded to give up on him pretty quickly (McNabb). Then Mike "stakes his reputation" on two different QBs, one immobile and and one mobile, neither of which look like anything to write home about.

So it seems to me that "what we do here" is irrelevant really. We don't do anything as far as the QB position is concerned. Kyle had a pretty darn good offense in Houston with Matt Schaub. He's not RG3 as far as athleticism is concerned. So in my eyes, if you feel Jones is a better pro prospect than RG3 in a vacuum (which I do, too), that's the guy we go with.

And like I said before, RG3 is accurate, but padding stats against Rice and Stephen F. Austin while Jones is shredding Texas Tech and K State doesn't really wow me. I wouldn't be surprised if RG3 goes back to school for another year. He'll be a much higher pick than if he comes out after this season.

skinsfaninok
10-31-2011, 11:54 PM
I have no clue what this team is wanting to do anymore, I mean if u throw beck and grossman out there which means what? Just trying to get through the season w 4-5 wins? That's what it looks like now

Landry44
11-01-2011, 12:40 AM
What exactly do "we do here?" The Shanny's inherited a mobile QB who was entrenched with this team (Campbell) and immediately shipped him off. Then we traded important picks for another mobile and accomplished QB and proceeded to give up on him pretty quickly (McNabb). Then Mike "stakes his reputation" on two different QBs, one immobile and and one mobile, neither of which look like anything to write home about.

So it seems to me that "what we do here" is irrelevant really. We don't do anything as far as the QB position is concerned. Kyle had a pretty darn good offense in Houston with Matt Schaub. He's not RG3 as far as athleticism is concerned. So in my eyes, if you feel Jones is a better pro prospect than RG3 in a vacuum (which I do, too), that's the guy we go with.

And like I said before, RG3 is accurate, but padding stats against Rice and Stephen F. Austin while Jones is shredding Texas Tech and K State doesn't really wow me. I wouldn't be surprised if RG3 goes back to school for another year. He'll be a much higher pick than if he comes out after this season.
This proves that you don't watch college football or you don't understand it. You keep bring up the fact that RG3 had incredible games against Stephen F. Austin and Rice. You completely dismissing his 350 yard 5td performance against K State. He threw for 400 yards against both Texas A&M and OKST this Saturday even though his team was completely over matched. I'm not taking anything away from Landry Jones because I believe he is indeed a great qb. However, lets be real every Oklahoma qb puts up big numbers. He's playing for a much better team with better talent on both sides of the ball. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

What sense would it make for RG3 to come back to school? He's already been there for 4 years, he has his degree, and most of the guys he's playing with are seniors. It would be stupid for him to come back definitely with his draft stock rising the way it is. More than likely he'll declare this up and coming draft. If he's there when it's our time to pick we take him.

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11-01-2011, 02:53 AM
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GMScud
11-01-2011, 09:33 AM
Landry44- you have absolutely no idea what you're even arguing. It's hilarious and you look foolish, so I encourage you to just stop. You've got a chubby for RG3. We get it. All I ever said is that I'd prefer to have Barkley or Jones as a Redskin. That's it. And then you agreed!! What the hell are you even saying? I never once said Jones was more mobile or had a better comp % than Griffith. Yet for some reason you insist on beating me over the head with it? Huh?

Seems to me your MO is to just come on here brag about how much college football knowledge you think you have. It's weak man.

Way to conveniently ignore my points about "what we do here," etc.

CRedskinsRule
11-01-2011, 10:10 AM
So, not being a college FB fan, I won't make an argument about any of the qb's. I am absolutely confused by Landry44's arguments tho'. So this is mainly to you collegeFBguy:

BigC stated early on, he preferred RGIII to Landry Jones because RGIII is a better fit for what we do here. You said he(BigC) obviously doesn't watch college FB after Lotus asked why not Landry Jones.

Then later you are saying RGIII fits better here than LJ because of what we do, and say GMScud obviously has no collegeFB IQ because he prefers LJ.

Seems like you reversed your position 100%, but maybe not, I just couldn't follow your arguments, so I was hoping you could clarify your thoughts for me (a non-collegeFBguy).

Also, for me, I am just really glad that there seems to be many qb's that will be available next draft.

Chico23231
11-01-2011, 10:18 AM
RGIII probably wont even come out this year as SS has stated. Regardless, both RGIII and Landry are very talented guys, 1st round guys. If you want the best QB prospect are you willing to pay the price, Im saying yes. Luck will be worth it.

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