Roster transition in the Shanny era

Thom Loverro: For Shanahan, no rough draft | Thom Loverro | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2010/12/thom-loverro-shanahan-no-rough-draft)

Shanny not being able to draft is a complete myth that people who don't like Shanny cling to.../looks around to find the person that said Shanahan can't draft.

Must be on a different board.

Anyway, if Shanahan had the ability to translate his drafts into on-field results, no one would think this.

Thom Loverro: For Shanahan, no rough draft | Thom Loverro | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2010/12/thom-loverro-shanahan-no-rough-draft)

Shanny not being able to draft is a complete myth that people who don't like Shanny cling to...

Good read.

Thom Loverro: For Shanahan, no rough draft | Thom Loverro | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2010/12/thom-loverro-shanahan-no-rough-draft)

Shanny not being able to draft is a complete myth that people who don't like Shanny cling to...
Is it not amazing how many Arm Chair Coaches will lay that nonsense down....To Funny.

Thom Loverro: For Shanahan, no rough draft | Thom Loverro | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2010/12/thom-loverro-shanahan-no-rough-draft)

Shanny not being able to draft is a complete myth that people who don't like Shanny cling to...

good read and opened my eyes a bit,Although I would like it to go back his whole tenure and not just 4 yrs.I have a good friend that lives in Denver who always complained about him as a GM and have seen several NFL experts say the same,maybe its just a myth thats been perpetuated thru the years and Ive fell victim to it.I need to see all the evidence,somebody do the research for me :)

Isn't it interesting that when Shanahan drafts a lot of useful pieces and parts that go on to be successful elsewhere around the league, it is evidence that he is a good drafter. But when he cuts a lot of those young players and they go elsewhere to be starters, then it's a scheme issue, not that the coach can't evaluate his own roster.

Me thinks that is very, very interesting. It would seem that some people are being disingenuous about what they truly believe.

He's had some gaffes for sure, but that comes with being in the game so long. But is he really terrible? Broncos had a lot of 4th-7th round picks that had/have successful careers.

I have absolutely, or rather exactly, no idea what this means? Are you saying Mike was a lousy sideline manager (clock, timeouts, challenges, offensive tempo, scheme, and general leadership) over the last two seasons because he has so much experience?

Or are we still (trying) to debate whether Mike has any business whatsoever acting as a "co-general manager" and play a significant role in personnel?

The latter

I have absolutely, or rather exactly, no idea what this means? Are you saying Mike was a lousy sideline manager (clock, timeouts, challenges, offensive tempo, scheme, and general leadership) over the last two seasons because he has so much experience?

Or are we still (trying) to debate whether Mike has any business whatsoever acting as a "co-general manager" and play a significant role in personnel?

He's talking about his draft record.

Thom Loverro: For Shanahan, no rough draft | Thom Loverro | NFL | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2010/12/thom-loverro-shanahan-no-rough-draft)

Shanny not being able to draft is a complete myth that people who don't like Shanny cling to...


I've always known the guy could draft and is one of the best in the league at doing so. A couple years back, this dude over on ES broke down picks between Shanahan and Bellicheck over the past decade. Shanahan came away with a better record in terms of landing success. However, when you hear people talk, Bellicheck is the master at personnel while Shanahan makes a bad GM.

Just like some of the guys up here. Bitching about Mike Williams, Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, etc... What they don't do is stop and think about the people available at the time with the market being restricted the way it was. Everybody was hemmed up on the restricted free agent tags assigned by their teams in the uncapped year that they had nothing really available. People want him to turn something out of nothing. Become the modern day Jesus. The guy can only do so much and of course he's going to make personnel mistakes, they all do.

I've always known the guy could draft and is one of the best in the league at doing so. A couple years back, this dude over on ES broke down picks between Shanahan and Bellicheck over the past decade. Shanahan came away with a better record in terms of landing success. However, when you hear people talk, Bellicheck is the master at personnel while Shanahan makes a bad GM.

Just like some of the guys up here. Bitching about Mike Williams, Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, etc... What they don't do is stop and think about the people available at the time with the market being restricted the way it was. Everybody was hemmed up on the restricted free agent tags assigned by their teams in the uncapped year that they had nothing really available. People want him to turn something out of nothing. Become the modern day Jesus. The guy can only do so much and of course he's going to make personnel mistakes, they all do.

Yep let's try and let the cake bake for once