Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

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Paintrain
03-11-2012, 09:02 PM
30Gut, I guess we see our talent at WR differently. I don't see upside or improvement coming from Gaffney (although he could replicate '11) or Moss (who I think we could replace his projected production with a younger, cheaper player).

Armstrong fell out of the rotation because he is route limited and can't beat press coverage effectively. He's a legit deep threat but he's got to get off the line first. At 29 this year, again, I think someone younger can replace his projected production.

Our TD passes were either long (30+ yards) or short (10 yards or less). Once we got inside the 20 we had no chance to get into the endzone unless we got inside the 10. To wit, we had 3 touchdown passes last season that were more than 10 yards but less than 30 yards. That has a lot to do with limited redzone options in the WR corp.

I'm all in on developing Hankerson, he may have #1 WR potential with a full season and offseason. Unfortunately he's recovering from hip surgery and will miss most of the offseason program. I don't think we should push him down the depth chart but develop him at the right pace. I've got really high hopes and expectations for him.

Agreed on Garcon to this point about being a secondary option. It's a projection to bump him into the next level of WR, but at his age, with his experience it's a measured risk. He put up good numbers with crappy QB last season so he's not reliant on Manning to produce which is encouraging.

I read a few times late last season they aren't looking at Helu as a feature back and aren't sold on Hightower as a feature as well. They may go into '12 with those three, but I wouldn't be shocked by an addition of another RB to be 'the guy'. Not a big buck Forte/Rice type but an upgrade from what we have.

I'm not trying to push Fletcher out of town but many reports say he's looking to get around $7-$9 mil a year but that's above what we're willing to pay. Tandler said on Twitter earlier that we won't hesitate to talk to other LB at 4:01pm Tuesday if Fletcher isn't signed. I hope he is back but again, won't be shocked if he's not.

That Guy
03-11-2012, 09:11 PM
I agree that there is a bunch of safeties. But the issue I mentioned concerned whether they really were all that good. The list you gave is an impressive list of "just a guy."

It may be that Shanny sees Gomes as potentially more than "just a guy."

gomes seems like just a guy, and our safety play was really terrible, so id be okay with average.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-11-2012, 09:14 PM
I'm with anyone against signing Garcon. Peyton absolutely made him the player he was. You could say the same about Reggie Wayne, but Garcon isn't even close to the player Wayne is/was.

skinsfaninok
03-11-2012, 09:17 PM
I'm with anyone against signing Garcon. Peyton absolutely made him the player he was. You could say the same about Reggie Wayne, but Garcon isn't even close to the player Wayne is/was.

Garcon had a good year with painter my man

Ruhskins
03-11-2012, 09:17 PM
I'm with anyone against signing Garcon. Peyton absolutely made him the player he was. You could say the same about Reggie Wayne, but Garcon isn't even close to the player Wayne is/was.

Garcon is not a #1 WR. We need a VJax/Colston type of player. Sounds like we may finally get VJax.

skinsfaninok
03-11-2012, 09:23 PM
Garcon is not a #1 WR. We need a VJax/Colston type of player. Sounds like we may finally get VJax.

He is on our team w out VJ imo but I'm glad we will have a big time WR for once

MTK
03-11-2012, 09:24 PM
Garcon had a good year with painter my man

Exactly.

Peyton is great no doubt, but he did have some legit receivers. Wayne, Clark, Harrison, etc. I wouldn't put Garçon quite in the class of those guys, but he's not a scrub either.

CultBrennan59
03-11-2012, 09:25 PM
Kevin Acee from the San Diego Tribune is reporting the Vincent Jackson to the skins is almost a lock to happen, since we will show more money than Chicago.

MTK
03-11-2012, 09:27 PM
Garcon is not a #1 WR. We need a VJax/Colston type of player. Sounds like we may finally get VJax.

Yup, sounds like we're all in for VJ.

I like it, VJ is a big play guy, and RGIII excels at going deep. Could be deadly.

804_skins
03-11-2012, 09:33 PM
I'm with anyone against signing Garcon. Peyton absolutely made him the player he was. You could say the same about Reggie Wayne, but Garcon isn't even close to the player Wayne is/was.

G`GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 16 70 947 13.5 87T 6

and that was without Manning...

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