Monksdown
02-26-2005, 09:43 AM
Canuck-
With the addition of Moss. And Thrash as a backup returnman or the 2nd kick returner. We definitely dont need Morton. Do you recall what his bonus is this year?
Gmanc711
02-26-2005, 10:08 AM
This is the thing I dont understand. Everyone says to cut Samuels or if he renegotiates, it would clear the cap room right up to make this deal. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldnt that just clear up like 5 Million bucks? Isnt the Coles trade going to cost us 9 Million, not even including a Santana Moss contract extention? It seems pretty dumb in my eyes, unless Coles gives back his money. If his ass wants out of here so bad, why wont he give it up?? If everything goes through, are we even going ot have cap room left??? Urgh!
skinsfanthru&thru
02-26-2005, 10:37 AM
How has he be underachieving? How many sacks has given up? Please explain
well he's definitely been underperforming as far as in comparision to what his salary warrants what his play should be like. he's in the top 10 of tackles but I don't know if I'd put him in the top five necessarily and just like smoot, that's what he expects to be paid like, but isn't really worth that amount of money. I for one would like to see him resigned because unlike Smoot, I don't think Samuels has reached his full potential and a very good LT with a starting qb who's right handed(and who's had the snot kicked out of him during his professional career), IMO is much much more important than a really good coverage cb.
as for this trade, I do like the big play factor moss will bring here, but with the Jets making it pretty clear he was being moved to the 3rd wr spot, why wouldn't we try to get atleast a second or third round pick along with Moss especially with other teams stepping up their offers.(whatever thos trade offers r, who knows?) and with the report that apparently if the trade goes through, the skins already have established that they will give moss an extension after march 2nd, anyone wanna take a guess on much more money were gonna be giving moss that he probably warrants ;)?
drew54
02-26-2005, 02:43 PM
Picks are overrated, you're getting an unknown commodity in what's not regarded as an overly strong draft class, while with Moss you know exactly what you're getting, and dumping serious baggage at the same time.
Would someone tell that to Philly, New England, and Pitsburgh.
BossHog
02-26-2005, 06:04 PM
Any other compensation for us? For them? I would like to know the other teams' offers. :oink:
SKINSnCANES
02-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Canuck-
With the addition of Moss. And Thrash as a backup returnman or the 2nd kick returner. We definitely dont need Morton. Do you recall what his bonus is this year?
I dont think Moss gets used to return kickoffs, just punts. Thrash or Brown would probably be the two kickoff guys. And yea, I dont see Morton being here next year unless they think he can still perform and that his injury was just bad luck
That Guy
02-27-2005, 12:32 AM
chad is paid a lot to do what brown/thrash/simon/betts can also do... I was actually pretty impressed with brown (despite the crushing fumble), and thrash seemed to do fine as well.