celts32
02-25-2005, 04:26 PM
This trade might not be straight up. Mabye for a change a team came to us and offered extra compensation to make a deal. Mabye we'll get a second and moss out of this.
now that would be a great trade, but highly unlikely...
Daseal
02-25-2005, 04:49 PM
I don't so much like this trade. I don't think Moss is a legitimate #1.
celts32
02-25-2005, 04:54 PM
The latest WP article that Matt just posted suggests that other teams are likely to increase thier offers before anything is finalized. There seems to be a lot of interest in Coles so the skins better make sure they are taking the best offer available before they jump into this Jets deal. If teams like Baltimore are offering #1 picks, maybe the Jets do need to include a pick with moss to make this deal fair.
SKINSnCANES
02-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Hopefully there will be a lot of competition for him, that only helps us.
We will find otu a lot more over the weekend.
Gmanc711
02-25-2005, 06:22 PM
We cannot eat the entire cap hit of Coles. I'd rather straight out release him; than get Moss, have to pay the rest of Coles garbage, and then resign Moss on top of that. Now, if we can get a way so that the cap hit is down in the 3-4mil range, pull the trigger on this deal ASAP. Otherwise; I'd be happier either just keeping Coles, or just letting him walk. To me, the Cap hit is the main player in this. And if we are getting screwed over there, I say forget it.
That Guy
02-25-2005, 07:17 PM
I honestly think this is happening because danny wanted moss to begin with (but marty had control and took rod instead), and chad P wants LC back (cause he hasn't played so hot without him)... the problem i have with moss is that he's never started all 16 games... thats beside the fact that he's not nearly as good as LC (nothing like trading your first round pick away for 2nd or 3rd round talent)....
I dont like eating the cap and letting the jets have a top 15-20 WR for cheap for 5 years... 3 years for 7.5$ for LC?? who wouldn't take that... i guess its better to get something out of it, but we traded down talent AND screwed up our cap numbers at the same time. What a mess...
I doubt this deal will happen, but the acquisition of Moss would facilitate the release (or trade) of Morton also. More cap space for me!
i thought we already found morton's replacement (cheap) at the end of last year... i think we could cut hall as well since we found a replacement for him as well.
Funbunchfan
02-25-2005, 08:28 PM
I just read somewhere I forgot where but the Ravens said they will sweaten their deal b4 a deal is reached with the Jets. I also read that Samuels just rejected the latest deal the Skins offered him so it is possible that this whole siuation is moot. However if we are able to come to terms with Samuels I believe that the Jets need to sweeten their deal if L C is still unwilling to give back the 5 mil if traded then the Jets need to absorb some if not all of that. The reason I feel this way b/c Coles is a supperior reciever. Lets stop taking the short end of the stick as we did in the Portis-Bailey trade. I feel we should have been the ones to recieve the draft pick there. I do trust in Coach Gibbs that whatever the situation he will give it careful concideration b4 making the final decision and will make lemonade from the lemons he has been dealt.
offiss
02-26-2005, 04:05 AM
I just read somewhere I forgot where but the Ravens said they will sweaten their deal b4 a deal is reached with the Jets. I also read that Samuels just rejected the latest deal the Skins offered him so it is possible that this whole siuation is moot. However if we are able to come to terms with Samuels I believe that the Jets need to sweeten their deal if L C is still unwilling to give back the 5 mil if traded then the Jets need to absorb some if not all of that. The reason I feel this way b/c Coles is a supperior reciever. Lets stop taking the short end of the stick as we did in the Portis-Bailey trade. I feel we should have been the ones to recieve the draft pick there. I do trust in Coach Gibbs that whatever the situation he will give it careful concideration b4 making the final decision and will make lemonade from the lemons he has been dealt.
If I had my choice I would take the draft pick's if they are offered, I like Moss but we can get a #1 and a 2 or 3 I would jump on it. As for Samuel's if he doesn't renegotiate I would cut or trade is underachieving A** that will take care of our cap problem's and open the door for Coles to be traded.
As for Samuel's if he doesn't renegotiate I would cut or trade is underachieving A** that will take care of our cap problem's and open the door for Coles to be traded. How has he be underachieving? How many sacks has given up? Please explain
eppykid
02-26-2005, 09:08 AM
The fact is that if we get Moss at least we've received something for LC. If we simply release LC we get nothing at all. The best case scenario would be Moss AND a draft pick. It may not be so wise to count on Moss as a full time return man. He may be healthier if he can avoid some vicious hits on returns. I am frankly concerned about losing Smoot which apparently is a foregone conclusion. He is a leader and hits very hard. Lastly, amen to getting rid of Gardner and his stupidity. Every time he made a first down it was if he'd scored on a 99 yard bomb...good riddens.