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coggs 10-31-2012, 07:50 AM Only if those Washington teams were great 14-2/13-3/12-4 etc. The NYG teams that won Super Bowls 42 & 46 were not great teams. They were 10-6 and 9-7 going into the playoffs those years. Especially the 2011 NYG team that at one point had a 4 game losing streak and a little luck within the post season. Their credibility in the SB comes from already have beaten the Patriots in New England during the regular season that year. But I don't see how a fan base can brag and boast about a lowly above average team that were fortunate to win out. They were nothing like the Saints and Packers in 2011.
In that case the 87 Redskins were nothing like the 85 Bears, 86 Giants, 84 Niners, 89 Niners, 90 Giants, 83 Raiders, 92 Cowboys, 93 Cowboys, 94 Niners, 95 Cowboys and so forth. What is your point? Seems like it is you who needs the convincing about the legitimacy of the Skins titles, not the Giants fans. In fact, I have never in my life ever heard a Giants fan make the claim to which you are accusing.
punch it in 10-31-2012, 09:53 AM Lets just say that every team who has ever won a superbowl was awesome and end this insanity. If you want to stake a claim of which was better that is one thing but to say any of them were lucky or not legitimate is sour grapes, jealous, and just dumb.
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44ever 10-31-2012, 10:10 AM Lets just say that every team who has ever won a superbowl was awesome and end this insanity. If you want to stake a claim of which was better that is one thing but to say any of them were lucky or not legitimate is sour grapes, jealous, and just dumb.
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Agree, Great teams find a way to win when they need to win. Giants are a great team and have been for some time now. I hate the MFs but its the truth.
skinsfan69 10-31-2012, 05:17 PM LOL, so 2super bowls and 2 MVPs aren't good enough for you.Wanna bet you would take them right now???
So Eli won them by himself? I guess Eli played defense huh? Eli's clutch, but I just don't put him in the class of the guys I mentioned. And sorry, that first SB, they should've given the MVP to the entire Giants D-line, not Eli. But as I said, when the games on the line, Eli's been money. Does that put him in the HOF? Probably since he's QB'd two SB winners. I just don't put him in the class of guys like ...Marino, Montana, Moon, ..he's a very good QB but not quite a great one.
skinsfan69 10-31-2012, 05:19 PM As a Giants fan, I have never once questioned the legitimacy of the 82 and 87 titles. Had the 87 strike continued and they league used replacement players for the play-offs and Super Bowl, then there is an asterik.
As for the Giants in 07 and 11, no they were not a dominant 14-2, 13-3 type team. However, in both seasons they went on the road to beat the #1 and then #2 seed in the NFC and in both years beat the AFC's #1 seed. In 07, they even played their first play-off game on the road. Can't get a much tougher road to the title then what the Giants did.
Secondly, ANY fan who claims they wouldn't celebrate or get a big head over Championships like the Giants won because they didnt dominate the regular season, is more full of $h!t than a politician.
Agreed. G-men are mentally tough road warriors. They earned it the hard way. Enough said.
los panda 10-31-2012, 05:23 PM i think eli has proven himself to be great, a hof lock.
as clutch as they come when it counts the most.
Bishop Hammer 11-01-2012, 01:09 AM I gotta agree with Panda. I use to thinl Eli was a bum but he's helped lead his team to two Superbowls and has delivered many clutch performances. Manning is a great quarterback. I'm not going to take that away from him just because I don't like the Giants.
REDSKINS4ever 11-01-2012, 01:43 PM In that case the 87 Redskins were nothing like the 85 Bears, 86 Giants, 84 Niners, 89 Niners, 90 Giants, 83 Raiders, 92 Cowboys, 93 Cowboys, 94 Niners, 95 Cowboys and so forth. What is your point? Seems like it is you who needs the convincing about the legitimacy of the Skins titles, not the Giants fans. In fact, I have never in my life ever heard a Giants fan make the claim to which you are accusing.
You failed to mention the 91 Redskins. Anyway, I hear that argument in New York City all the time from NYG fans. Not all of them, but those of them who claim to really know football. Once the NFL commissioner presents the Vince Lombardi trophy to an NFL organization, that alone legitimizes the SB victory, I tell them. It's sort of like a new world leader being sworn in.
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