Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter

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BigHairedAristocrat
12-11-2012, 12:12 PM
It is the fact they are seen as investments and because of this they get services to make sure they are kept safe. That is all it comes down to. You put millions of dollars into some one you want to make sure they stay safe no matter how dumb they are.

Thats a very good point. From a business perspective, it makes sense> it just bothers me from a moral perspective.

hooskins
12-11-2012, 12:45 PM
Killing someone is a little bigger than "just a mistake".

Driving drunk is not a "mistake", it's a damn stupid decision that you could pay for...but others shouldn't have to.

I have zero tolerance for drunk drivers. My wife and kids got t-boned by a drunk last year who went through a stop sign without even slowing down...thank God they were unharmed (car was totaled), but it should never have happened in the first place.

Even before that day, I had the same view on it. This just put it on concrete.

I think we agree here that it's a horrible thing to do and it puts everyone in danger.

The real question is how do you cure this epidemic our nation deals with on a daily basis? I personally think crucifying the drivers isn't the only or long term solution. Dui laws continue to grow and I don't think we've had a significant change in the number of accidents and deaths (correct me if I'm wrong here).

To be honest, I think something radical like bha's proposal of making breathilizers manditory in all new cars is an interesting idea. Obviously doesn't stop all occurrences but its a start. And its something different.

Yeah, its sad we can't regulate ourselves and it would be some big brother ish but I think its better than what we have now. Call me whatever you want, but less deaths and less lives ruined to drunk driving is worth it.

53Fan
12-11-2012, 01:13 PM
By wow, i hope youre referring to Stacee McWilliams using this tragic incident to get her 15 minutes of fame. And PFT for perpetuating it by using such a licentious and inflamitory article name and not providing commentary...

Brent was intoxicated and just in an accident. the car FLIPPED AND ROLLED OVER. McWilliams stated that every time she spoke to him and told him to get his friend out of the car, his reply was "he won't get out of the car."

Its blatantly obvious Brent was in shock. The idea that McWilliams and PFT are perpetuating the idea that he just didnt care about his friend is absurd.

McWilliams says she's coming forward because she doesn't want anyone to think Brents a hero - who the frack has said he's a hero?!?! No one. This woman is trying to capitalize on a tragedy for media attention and it disgusts me to my core.
I agree. This article just gets people to jump to conclusions and make it more sensational. It's this kinda garbage that use to lead to mob justice. The guy was obviously shook up and of course impaired by alcohol. It's sad and was completely avoidable and he definitely made a bad decision that will affect him the rest of his life. The article is just piling on BS that tries to make it even worse.

punch it in
12-11-2012, 01:17 PM
By wow, i hope youre referring to Stacee McWilliams using this tragic incident to get her 15 minutes of fame. And PFT for perpetuating it by using such a licentious and inflamitory article name and not providing commentary...

Brent was intoxicated and just in an accident. the car FLIPPED AND ROLLED OVER. McWilliams stated that every time she spoke to him and told him to get his friend out of the car, his reply was "he won't get out of the car."

Its blatantly obvious Brent was in shock. The idea that McWilliams and PFT are perpetuating the idea that he just didnt care about his friend is absurd.

McWilliams says she's coming forward because she doesn't want anyone to think Brents a hero - who the frack has said he's a hero?!?! No one. This woman is trying to capitalize on a tragedy for media attention and it disgusts me to my core.

Thank you because that article seemed so absurd and twisted.

firstdown
12-11-2012, 01:23 PM
I think we agree here that it's a horrible thing to do and it puts everyone in danger.

The real question is how do you cure this epidemic our nation deals with on a daily basis? I personally think crucifying the drivers isn't the only or long term solution. Dui laws continue to grow and I don't think we've had a significant change in the number of accidents and deaths (correct me if I'm wrong here).

To be honest, I think something radical like bha's proposal of making breathilizers manditory in all new cars is an interesting idea. Obviously doesn't stop all occurrences but its a start. And its something different.

Yeah, its sad we can't regulate ourselves and it would be some big brother ish but I think its better than what we have now. Call me whatever you want, but less deaths and less lives ruined to drunk driving is worth it.

Deaths have dropped to an all time low. The number are skewed but that's another thread.


Not only did the number of people killed in drunk driving crashes in 2011 (9,878) drop by 2.5 percent from the number killed in 2010 (10,136), but this decline outpaced the 1.9 percent decrease in overall highway deaths. "Our efforts are paying off in lives saved and injuries prevented," added Withers.
Since MADD was founded in 1980, more than 300,000 lives have been saved as a result of efforts to strengthen drunk driving laws and raise awareness about this 100 percent preventable crime. In addition, since MADD's Campaign to Eliminate Drunk Driving was launched in 2006, we've seen an almost 27 percent decrease in drunk driving fatalities. The campaign includes three important components: 1) supporting high-visibility law enforcement efforts, such as sobriety checkpoints and NHTSA's nationwide 'Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over' campaign; 2) requiring ignition interlocks for all convicted drunk drivers; and 3) supporting the development of technology to automatically determine whether a driver is at or above the legal limit of .08 blood alcohol concentration (BAC).

punch it in
12-11-2012, 01:34 PM
Bottom line is he they both made dumb decisions and one guy is dead and the other probably wishes he was too rite about now. They both did something that millions of people do around the world everyday. Doesnt make it rite but nobody meant to hurt anyone. Some of the comments on here sound so spiteful. This was an accident and before anyone says well it was no accident that he had the drinks in the first place - i hope your fire alarms have good batteries and or have been inspected because if something happens it was your choice not to do so. There are hundreds of other examples - do any of you own guns? Are they safe and secure? Are you sure? Are the tires and brakes on all your cars ok? Bald tires are super dangerous so get em changed - if you dont and you cause an accident and kill someone it will be your fault for being to cheap and lazy to do so. I could go on and on. Dude made a mistake. He will pay for it the rest of his life.
He ****ed up.
None of you are perfect. Nobody is.
Edit: im not comparing driving drunk to neglect of your car- even though at 65mph both can be extremely hazardous. Im just pointing out that a bad decision can lead to a very unfortunate end, but we still have to differentiate from the severity of those decisions. Having a few drinks with ur best friend n going home is not exactly shooting someone

hooskins
12-11-2012, 02:07 PM
Deaths have dropped to an all time low. The number are skewed but that's another thread.


Not only did the number of people killed in drunk driving crashes in 2011 (9,878) drop by 2.5 percent from the number killed in 2010 (10,136), but this decline outpaced the 1.9 percent decrease in overall highway deaths. "Our efforts are paying off in lives saved and injuries prevented," added Withers.
Since MADD was founded in 1980, more than 300,000 lives have been saved as a result of efforts to strengthen drunk driving laws and raise awareness about this 100 percent preventable crime. In addition, since MADD's Campaign to Eliminate Drunk Driving was launched in 2006, we've seen an almost 27 percent decrease in drunk driving fatalities. The campaign includes three important components: 1) supporting high-visibility law enforcement efforts, such as sobriety checkpoints and NHTSA's nationwide 'Drive Sober or Get Pulled Over' campaign; 2) requiring ignition interlocks for all convicted drunk drivers; and 3) supporting the development of technology to automatically determine whether a driver is at or above the legal limit of .08 blood alcohol concentration (BAC).

Well that's good to hear. Still support bha's idea.

punch it in
12-11-2012, 02:50 PM
The breathalyzer would be a great idea if they could make sure somehow it was the drunk driver that was actually blowing in it. The fact that you may not be driving your own vehicle makes the idea seem impossible though.

The Goat
12-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Eyewitness describes scene at crash that claimed the life of Cowboys linebacker Jerry Brown | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/eyewitness-describes-scene-crash-claimed-life-cowboys-linebacker-170937707--nfl.html)

Brent sounds like a real classy guy.

SmootSmack
12-11-2012, 03:50 PM
Goat has gone from not watching games to not reading posts

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