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Lotus
04-26-2013, 12:29 PM
Since the Oilers never won a Super Bowl, Warren Moon was just a gimmick.

As was Dan Fouts and the Air Coryell offense. Also, Dan Marino and the Marks Brothers were a gimmick.

Monkeydad
04-26-2013, 12:34 PM
Jamarcus Russell was a gimmick.

Heck, the Raiders are a gimmick.

CrustyRedskin
04-26-2013, 12:41 PM
just throwing the Run and SHoot out there for yal to kick around! I do remember Detroit, Atlanta, and Houston all making the playoffs one year with it. May have been 91. I know Buddy Ryan lovved it. lol

The Goat
04-26-2013, 01:25 PM
No comment

LOL. I can agree to disagree.

Context is also important here. You don't hear many positive comments about us (Shanny especially) outside Skins fandom, which for me is basically just this board. Last night is a good example. Watched the draft with a houseful of football buddies plus wives and girlfriends. Cowboys fans. Steelers. Saints. Seahawks. Broncos. The few times a convo turned toward the Skins there was a single theme: "What the eff are the Redskins/Shanahans thinking?" About the read-option. About keeping RG on the field after the Baltimore injury, and most especially in the playoff game. Literally, every person at the house, and every football fan I've ever chatted with outside this board, thought keeping RG in that game was/is the most appalling decision/behavior they've seen by a coach anywhere (pro, college, other sports).

I'd like to think my views are pretty reasonable, given I listen to a lot of different perspectives and avoid a "bubble" experience.

I guess my bottom line: if we continue to use RG as a running QB the likelihood he plays a long, healthy career isn't good.

MTK
04-26-2013, 01:42 PM
^ Shanahan gets plenty of respect around the league, especially for what he did with RG3 last year, you know that rookie of the year thing and molding the offense to suit his skills, you just refuse to listen.

The Goat
04-26-2013, 02:04 PM
^ Shanahan gets plenty of respect around the league, especially for what he did with RG3 last year, you know that rookie of the year thing and molding the offense to suit his skills, you just refuse to listen.

Wrong (as usual). I watched every game and know the stats as well as you or anyone else. I also try to step back and look at the bigger picture i.e. longevity over short-term, the preponderance of evidence about running QBs, etc etc.

It's one thing if you absolutely believe Shanny will win a Lombardi with RG before "running his wheels off" as you hear people say over and over again. Otherwise, the term pyrrhic victory comes to mind.

Chico23231
04-26-2013, 02:09 PM
I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

Monkeydad
04-26-2013, 02:10 PM
I guess my bottom line: if we continue to use RG as a running QB the likelihood he plays a long, healthy career isn't good.

If we refuse to utilize his skill-set to the fullest, the likelihood that the team is successful is limited.

He's not a running QB, Vick was a running QB. Unlike Vick, Griffin is also one of the most accurate passers in the NFL and can beat teams on the ground and in the air. He's not a running QB, he's a QB who can run. It's more than semantics. There's a huge difference.

If Conan did his "If they mated" bit with Chris Johnson and Peyton Manning, RGIII would be the answer. The way Robert led the offense to a winning TD all by himself in just his fourth game in the NFL after they turned off his headset...that's leadership and poise like Manning, but with world class speed.

Monkeydad
04-26-2013, 02:12 PM
Wrong (as usual).


If this were the Buccaneers board and you talked to the boss that way, you'd be outta here!

MTK
04-26-2013, 02:14 PM
Wrong (as usual). I watched every game and know the stats as well as you or anyone else. I also try to step back and look at the bigger picture i.e. longevity over short-term, the preponderance of evidence about running QBs, etc etc.

It's one thing if you absolutely believe Shanny will win a Lombardi with RG before "running his wheels off" as you hear people say over and over again. Otherwise, the term pyrrhic victory comes to mind.

You sure do like going in circles. Wrong as usual, lol, this coming from the biggest clown on the board.

They cut way back on the designed runs as the season went on. RGIII needs to be smarter when he scrambles, that's what it boils down to.

He's far more than just a running QB. He's a hell of a passer and athlete. Ignoring the fact that he's a dangerous runner and not taking full advantage of his skills would be a total waste.

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