To Read Option, or Not

[SouperMeister]

I may be in the minority on this, but I do not believe Shanny should abandon the read option. By the middle of the season, Griffin was so good at reading defensive ends, that when he opted to keep the ball, he always seemed to get 10+ yards untouched before either sliding or scampering out of bounds. Fact of the matter, his concussion against Atlanta and his initial LCL injury against Baltimore came when a passing play broke down, and he tried to get too much out of his legs instead of throwing the ball away or sliding earlier. It's on Griffin to get better at protecting himself in those situations.

What became clear to me is that a healthy Griffin running read option out of the pistol paralyzes even the most dominant defensive ends, forcing them to read then react. I strongly believe that if we run a normal pocket passing attack, Griffin will take more hits from the likes of JPP, Umenyiora, Trent Cole, and Demarcus Ware.

[JoeRedskin]

No disagreement from me. If he learns to slide and get out of bounds, Griffin can run the read all day long. Just like learning to take the sack when there is nowhere to go, however, Griffin needs to learn that sometimes, taking a loss or minimal gain on the R/O is the best play there is - no need to risk injury to win every play.

[GMScud]

I agree. Keep it going. It was unstoppable. Like you said, his injuries didn't happen running the RO. Also, you've got to think we'll upgrade the O-line to help those pocket passing situations too. A lot of our schemes this year put lipstick on a pig so to speak with regard to the quality of our O-line. They did a fine job zone-blocking for the running game, but the truth is they leave a lot to be desired as far as straight up pass-pro.

[Ruhskins]

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

holla

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Keep running it...although I wonder how long until NFL defenses can catch up? Still, kinda hard to defend it when you have a running-QB who can pass and not a QB like Tebow.

Idea. Cut Rex and get Tebow for QB3. Dead serious.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We'll be transitioning to the Statue of Liberty offense

We need taller receivers. Bring back Marco Mitchell and Malcolm Kelly.

[budw38]

I wouldn't scrap it , but wouldn't use it as often . upgrade the OL and we can line up and run downhill , not to mention better pass protection .

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by budw38

I wouldn't scrap it , but wouldn't use it as often . upgrade the OL and we can line up and run downhill , not to mention better pass protection .

IAWTP. The read option is a valulable tool, chucking it altogether would be foolhardy. Same time if its relied upon to much defenses will figure it out sooner rather than later and RG3's chances of injury will increase.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by Bishop Hammer

IAWTP. The read option is a valulable tool, chucking it altogether would be foolhardy. Same time if its relied upon to much defenses will figure it out sooner rather than later and RG3's chances of injury will increase.

The read option is a gimmick offense at this level. The right personnel and defensive scheme would stop it flat! A defense with a hybrid SS/LB on the outside(s) behind a 4 man line w/ends wide and 2 inside linebackers that fill is the answer (correct=single safety see-Texas in the 80's), personnel is the answer.
Griffin is best in a spread type of offense where he can scramble if needed, with up-tempo and plays called at the line of scrimmage. I forgot that would require the Shannys to relinquish all of the play calling and game mis-management. NEVERMIND

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by whistler

The read option is a gimmick offense at this level. The right personnel and defensive scheme would stop it flat! A defense with a hybrid SS/LB on the outside(s) behind a 4 man line w/ends wide and 2 inside linebackers that fill is the answer (correct=single safety see-Texas in the 80's), personnel is the answer.
Griffin is best in a spread type of offense where he can scramble if needed, with up-tempo and plays called at the line of scrimmage. I forgot that would require the Shannys to relinquish all of the play calling and game mis-management. NEVERMIND

Do you......surmise that the teams (and their combined staffs) we plagued with the read option all year somehow, were eluded by this revelation?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by whistler

The read option is a gimmick offense at this level. The right personnel and defensive scheme would stop it flat! A defense with a hybrid SS/LB on the outside(s) behind a 4 man line w/ends wide and 2 inside linebackers that fill is the answer (correct=single safety see-Texas in the 80's), personnel is the answer.
Griffin is best in a spread type of offense where he can scramble if needed, with up-tempo and plays called at the line of scrimmage. I forgot that would require the Shannys to relinquish all of the play calling and game mis-management. NEVERMIND

Yes, because a gimmick gives you the #1 rushing offense in the NFL AND one of the highest-rated passers in the league, in his rookie year.

Get used to it, we're a powerhouse on offense and will be for years. This isn't a gimmick that defenses can figure out...RGIII's incredible ball skills on fake hand-offs and the option plays isn't something you figure out, it's something you just have to hope you guess the right way on as a defender. There's nothing complex to decipher, this offense just forces the defense to react and take a blind guess about where the ball is and is going.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by whistler

The read option is a gimmick offense at this level. The right personnel and defensive scheme would stop it flat! A defense with a hybrid SS/LB on the outside(s) behind a 4 man line w/ends wide and 2 inside linebackers that fill is the answer (correct=single safety see-Texas in the 80's), personnel is the answer.
Griffin is best in a spread type of offense where he can scramble if needed, with up-tempo and plays called at the line of scrimmage. I forgot that would require the Shannys to relinquish all of the play calling and game mis-management. NEVERMIND

You counter-action can be counter-acted with a good outside passing game and quality interior line play allowing for serious between the tackles yardage. The fact still remains that with the right personnel (smart qb who's fast, decisive one-cut RB and speed at WR) the read option is damn hard to defend. It eliminates one defender on the field straight away. The backside DE has to make a decision on what to do...there isn't a DE in the league who can scrape down the line AND provide containment. If you're QB reads it correct then the defense is playing catching right off the bat.

[MTK]

I think you can mix it in, but I think the natural evolution of the offense needs to continue to move away from it. You can still take advantage of his athleticism with the boots and play action off that.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think you can mix it in, but I think the natural evolution of the offense needs to continue to move away from it. You can still take advantage of his athleticism with the boots and play action off that.

matty, when he comes back, he's going to be drew bledsoe

[MTK]

Originally Posted by los panda

matty, when he comes back, he's going to be drew bledsoe

We'll be transitioning to the Statue of Liberty offense