Redskins "Name Change" Volume 10000000

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Skinzman
09-18-2013, 11:53 PM
Skinzman is hurt

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/54258-redskins-name-change-volume-10000000-a-10.html#post1024961

Not hurt, just glad that someone from the media actually talked to the people associated with the HS's that I mentioned and said what I said about Oklahoma. I actually got my wish. Not that I hated Reilly, but was never much of a fan of his. That will be changing now, as I am anti-pc. Good to see someone actually talk to an Indian about this and not just assume they are right because of self righteousness.

That Guy
09-19-2013, 12:56 AM
i just think it's weird that so many "analysts" and "journalists" are taking it up to talk on behalf of people that can speak for themselves.

the only really active group seems to be very very tiny and pretty extreme (they want all indian/native american related names wiped from existence).

why don't they start with the high schools that use the name first? you know, the ones that have a 68-99% native american student population and no official name complaints. why not try to get jackson's face off our currency instead.

it just seems like a phantom groundswell.

irish
09-19-2013, 07:04 AM
When I was in the Outer Banks this summer I visited Roanoke Island (home of the Lost Colony & Virginia Dare ) and discovered the local high school (Manteo HS) is called the Redskins. Manteo was an indian that helped the English colonists and was the first non-Englishman to be made a Lord (he was named Lord of Roanoke by QE1) so there is some historical basis for the name.

TheGuyFromOverThere
09-19-2013, 07:41 AM
What about the Name Buffalo Bills? I mean, he killed Native Americans. Isnīt that worse?

irish
09-19-2013, 08:00 AM
What about the Name Buffalo Bills? I mean, he killed Native Americans. Isnīt that worse?

Buffalo Bill Cody was a buffalo hunter, hence the name Buffalo Bill. He supported Indian rights and employed a lot of Indians in his Wild West Show.

FRPLG
09-19-2013, 08:42 AM
i just think it's weird that so many "analysts" and "journalists" are taking it up to talk on behalf of people that can speak for themselves.

Do-gooder progressive white people are the worst. They do-good not out of principle but out of guilt, ignorance, and arrogance. That's what is so ridiculous about this. These buffoons have sort of moved this issue to the point where they're starting to establish "Redskins" are ubiquitously offensive. Not that any actual group is offended by it but a tiny vocal percentage of a group is and because these people are wired to try and please all people all the time they just have to do something about it. Most of the media can't actually articulate why it is offensive or who actually is offended. They just know a few people have said it is so it must be. Not critical thought at all. For these people doing good has no end. I'll really care about this when a substantive group of Native Americans band together and present a cogent argument as to why it is offensive and has been for some period of time. Since it seems a more substantive group of them actually consider it an honorary name I doubt we'll see that any time soon.

hooskins
09-19-2013, 03:01 PM
Reilly makes good points, but he's ignoring some of the points on the other side. And it's a bit of a stretch to compare the moving people to reservations to those that support the name change.

hooskins
09-19-2013, 03:03 PM
That being said, points like the state of Oklahoma and the origins of the name should be discussed.

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Lotus
09-19-2013, 03:56 PM
Reilly makes good points, but he's ignoring some of the points on the other side. And it's a bit of a stretch to compare the moving people to reservations to those that support the name change.

I agree. While I really like the positive points that Reilly makes, like Native American schools having Redskins mascots, he seems to imply that there is no Native American opposition to the name. Recent attempts to protest the name by the Oneida Nation, no matter how flawed or small, show that that is not true.

Personally I think that Dan Snyder should use his cash resources to help the Oneida Nation and others like them. Win the opposition over with gifts and there will be few left to complain.

MTK
09-19-2013, 04:54 PM
The media can pump up this issue up all they want, but at the end of the day there's just not strong enough opposition out there to push a name change. The media can also make it seem like it's a bigger issue today than it was 20-30 years ago, but it's just not.

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