Broncos vs Skins Post Game Thread

I think it's give and take w/ Morris. Yeah he may not break off Chris Johnson type of runs, but he also makes yards when yards are not there. Besides, all the best offenses throw for their points.

More give than take, IMO. John Riggins didn't have many long runs but I'd say he was effective. Moving the chains is what it's all about. Most of the breakaway type runners in the NFL couldn't break the tackles that get Morris his 10 and 20 yard runs. So, where would that put them?

Of course it changes the equation. If you are within 7, anything can happen. If you're behind by 24, your goose is cooked.But if it ends with you defending your goal the whole second half, you're out of the realm of anything can happen, and into the realm of defeatism.

The point is, it's the same probability of winning either way, unless you really like your chance of stopping Peyton Manning on any given drive. Like, if you kept a secret defense he's never seen in your pocket the whole game. But I don't think that exists, and by shorting the game, you're just giving the best player on the field more control over the outcome.

I thought clearly, the best opportunity to win was more posessions = more turnovers. The second Hall pick...total gamechanger if the offense wasn't busy crapping the bed.

DO you remotely understand the contract ramifications of bringing Fitz aboard? Also, we have no first round to give away, and you want to give up future picks ala Cerrato style? Fitz is going to count for 18 mil next season and 21 mill the season after.

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Not only that, why the hell would Fitz want to come to a 2-5 team?? His current team is better than we are.

I understand the cap ramifications of a deal like that. I also understand that players and teams can make adjustments to contracts to make things work. The record doesn't matter. If you add a player of that caliber to the roster it will completely change the dynamic of the offense and make RG a better passer. Also, he will give more opportunites to Garcon, Morris, Reed, and Robinson.

I have a go big or go home mentality and if they don't get the quality talent around Robert, he will fail.

I just don't understand the plays that were called. It seemed like our coaches felt sorry for Denver and wanted to let them score more points. I'm still shaking my head at the calls little Kyle made. Why did we ever want Kyle here in the first place? He was touted as the next Joe Gibbs (by his dad, that is!).

More give than take, IMO. John Riggins didn't have many long runs but I'd say he was effective. Moving the chains is what it's all about. Most of the breakaway type runners in the NFL couldn't break the tackles that get Morris his 10 and 20 yard runs. So, where would that put them?

Oh I agree. Yesterday they should've given him the ball 35 times. Kyle still thinks he's calling plays in Houston.

Larry F. is in his 30's. Trading for him is something Vinny would've done.

Yeah Im just gonna disagree here, because of the way we won the first half. To allow the defense to breath and to bleed the clock was clicking just fine. Lets be honest, Haslett had Peyton yesterday until RG3 threw INTs and fumbled the ball away along with the win. So giving the game away to them due to the passing game was ok?'Worst way to lose' is completely subjective. But I doubt that if it had played out as run 60% of the time = loss, anyone would disagree with me. It would feel way worse than it does today. It would have felt non-competitive. I think people wanted to run AND win, not run TO win.

Haslett had Peyton a lot yesterday. I've never seen Peyton misread zone for man so many times in a single game. Complete 180 from 2010. Would have been an excellent storyline if the offense didn't suck.

I do think you probably misread me saying I was going to hold Kyle accountable for the passing game he built as 'being okay with it.' Denver saw the Dallas tape. They prepared for us and squatted on all of our route combinations in the passing game. Teams know what we're going to run based on formation and alignment. Kyle gets outcoached every week.

Personally, I can't wait for the Kyle Shanahan-Matt Schaub experience in Tampa next season.

no chance we get fitz

'Worst way to lose' is completely subjective. But I doubt that if it had played out as run 60% of the time = loss, anyone would disagree with me. It would feel way worse than it does today. It would have felt non-competitive. I think people wanted to run AND win, not run TO win.

Haslett had Peyton a lot yesterday. I've never seen Peyton misread zone for man so many times in a single game. Complete 180 from 2010. Would have been an excellent storyline if the offense didn't suck.

I do think you probably misread me saying I was going to hold Kyle accountable for the passing game he built as 'being okay with it.' Denver saw the Dallas tape. They prepared for us and squatted on all of our route combinations in the passing game. Teams know what we're going to run based on formation and alignment. Kyle gets outcoached every week.

Personally, I can't wait for the Kyle Shanahan-Matt Schaub experience in Tampa next season.

Would you take Kubiack here?

I'm so tired of people talking about last year.

Your Cousins argument is based on last year...

Starting Cousins for any reason other than an injury to Griffin is the absolute worst thing that could happen to this team. It's a no win situation.