CrazyCanuck
01-27-2014, 04:14 PM
Ok so we are close. The only discrepancy I have is that you are around $30mill and I'm at $33 but if I take Meriweather out then I'd have an additional $2.2M of savings so then $35M total. Sounds good once you post your sheets we can compare closer.
O ya good point. :) Sorry for my math, a weekend of crunching numbers will do that.
New sheets are up. Thanks CC.
SkinsFanOttawa
01-27-2014, 06:47 PM
New sheets are up. Thanks CC.
Hi there, thanks for this. Where is it I can see the sheets?
CrazyCanuck
01-27-2014, 07:26 PM
New sheets are up. Thanks CC.
Hi there, thanks for this. Where is it I can see the sheets?
Thanks Matty. SFO you can see the cap sheets by clicking "Salary Cap Info" at the top of the page under the banner, or you can click the middle link in my signature. You might have to refresh the pages to see the latest version.
NYCskinfan82
01-28-2014, 10:40 AM
Redskins could gain even more cap room | Comcast SportsNet Washington (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-could-gain-even-more-cap-room)
More info on the cap.
Monkeydad
01-28-2014, 11:06 AM
I think Orakpo is a fit in every scheme, but the good news I think is that the 4-3 teams are going to have a hard time pushing themselves past 8 or 8.5 million a year for a sam linebacker. Jacksonville or Seattle are the obvious exceptions. If Oakland loses Lamarr Houston, they're in as well.
The 3-4 teams would obviously be willing to go to 10 or 11 for Orakpo, but I'm not sure how many established 3-4 teams are short a pass rusher. Cleveland has cap space, but they just invested in Mingo and Kruger last year. The Bears are a threat once they release Peppers. The Colts aren't going to part with Mathis, so they're not in on it. Ditto Suggs and the Ravens. Woodley and the Steelers. The Packers and Matthews. The Jets are a real threat though. As are the Patriots, but they can be priced out at $10 million.
I think those are the biggest threats for Orakpo: Seattle, Jacksonville, Chicago, and the Jets. We should be able to make best offer. But it might go to $11 million.
We have absolutely no excuse for not getting 'Rak back. We have the money to spare so unless he goes Chris Johnson on us and demands to be the highest-paid player in football, we have the cap room to beat anyone else's offer.
SkinsFanOttawa
01-28-2014, 02:42 PM
Thanks Matty. SFO you can see the cap sheets by clicking "Salary Cap Info" at the top of the page under the banner, or you can click the middle link in my signature. You might have to refresh the pages to see the latest version.
Thank you sir. Ok, I have taken a look at your sheets and compared them to what I have. We are off about $5M (if you take Fletcher and Morgan off the books) and that is actually the major discrepancy that I see.
What I wasn't taking into account was that Fletcher and Morgan off the books will count in additional dead money - $2.1M and $3.3M respectively for a total of $5.4M. That's pretty much our difference. So yes our cap space will be about $28M or so without those 2. I based my calcs on SpotRac and they don't have any account for their additional dead money, just the $155K. I really don't understand Morgan's or Meriweather's contracts for that matter. I don't get the dead money for Morgan I thought he was a UFA.
Here's the other minor differences I noted:
Richard Quinn – I have $420K .. you have $730K
Ryan Mouton - I have $420K .. you have $645K
David Gettis - I have $420K .. you have $570K
Kevin Kowalski - I don't have this guy at all .. you have $570K
Robert Malone - I have $420K .. you have $570K
Will Compton – I have as an ERFA .. you have $495K
Phillip Thomas – I have $601K .. you have $526K
Jeremy Kimbrough – I have $496K .. you have $421K
HailGreen28
01-28-2014, 03:06 PM
Very educational. Can't believe how much we paid for Josh Morgan. Love how little dead cap we have. Thanks CrazyCanuck!
CrazyCanuck
01-28-2014, 03:53 PM
I really don't understand Morgan's or Meriweather's contracts for that matter. I don't get the dead money for Morgan I thought he was a UFA.
Here's the other minor differences I noted:
Richard Quinn – I have $420K .. you have $730K
Ryan Mouton - I have $420K .. you have $645K
David Gettis - I have $420K .. you have $570K
Kevin Kowalski - I don't have this guy at all .. you have $570K
Robert Malone - I have $420K .. you have $570K
Will Compton – I have as an ERFA .. you have $495K
Phillip Thomas – I have $601K .. you have $526K
Jeremy Kimbrough – I have $496K .. you have $421K
- Merriweather, Morgan, and Fletcher's contracts all have team void options after the 2013 season.
- For the other guys you mentioned, the discrepancies seem to be related to minimum salaries and years of experience. For instance, the min salary for a rookie is $420K, but I have Quinn with 3 years of experience which would get him to $645K, 4 years would get him to $730K. Similar discrepancies exist for the others.
Anyways these are negligible differences, we're all on the same page.
Schneed10
01-28-2014, 06:24 PM
CC your sheets make things so easy to analyze. I saw OvertheCap's stuff and the numbers looked good, but honestly it's too hard to deal with. Yours are the most well-laid out on the web.
After a first-cut analysis, I think these are the obvious moves you can expect to see:
- The team is likely to approach Trent Williams about an extension to bring his $11M cap hit down in 2014. They could restructure his $7.25M base salary into a signing bonus, plus add additional guarantees to lock him in for a long time while bringing down the cap number.
- The team will take a hard line with Josh Morgan. Accept a pay cut or begone. The team has all the leverage with him.
- While I'm not as sure as I am with Trent, I think they'd approach Kerrigan (if not this spring then sometime in the summer) to extend him.
- Polumbus is a goner.
- They will have a tough call on Carriker, cutting him would free some space. But not oodles. They can afford to keep him no doubt. I'll bet Haslett goes to bat for him and they give him another shot. If he can't make it back he'll be a camp casualty.