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Schneed10 02-19-2014, 02:56 PM NFL.com is reporting 4 yrs, $17 mil, $5.25 guaranteed, $3.25 of it in a signing bonus. That's not bad at all from a cap perspective. That's pretty easily managed past 2014.
Yes I would definitely agree. The low guaranteed money here makes me overall pretty happy with this deal.
If this info from NFL.com is right, I'd venture a guess that the 2014 cap hit will be about $2.5M. Not bad.
calia 02-19-2014, 06:53 PM I like this too. Now if the contract has a clause whereby each time he commits a stupid late hit for 15 yards that extends the opponent's drive, he has to buy dinner for the other starters on defense, I would be even happier.
GTripp0012 02-19-2014, 07:05 PM Hall is getting paid like a no. 2 corner. He was better than that last year, not so much the years before that.
This is a pretty solid deal for the Redskins. I don't think Hall could have gotten more than this on the open market, and I think it would have been prudent to see what was out there. The CB market is flooded, and Hall's agent did great to get $3+ million in SB money from a team that had a lot of cap space.
On the other hand, if you can negotiate a reasonable contract, it's hard to argue with that. The top corners on the market will sign for a lot more than this.
GTripp0012 02-19-2014, 07:13 PM I think we're probably looking at starting Hall and Amerson, and picking up someone to compete for the nickel spot. Talib is likely looking for big $$.Seems like they're saving the money to throw at a safety. Not sure there's a ton there after Jairus Byrd.
Schneed10 02-19-2014, 07:15 PM Seems like they're saving the money to throw at a safety. Not sure there's a ton there after Jairus Byrd.
TJ Ward? Or is he getting tagged?
GTripp0012 02-19-2014, 07:23 PM TJ Ward? Or is he getting tagged?He's probably second best, but there is a TJ Ward or two that gets to the market every year. Wouldn't go over 5/$20 for Ward.
Chris Clemons from Miami can play a little bit and I'm a big Malcolm Jenkins fan, but this is a weak safety class. Corner is loaded, though.
The safeties in the draft are intriguing, though. Jimmie Ward could be available with the 34th pick.
SirLK26 02-19-2014, 07:33 PM Seems like they're saving the money to throw at a safety. Not sure there's a ton there after Jairus Byrd.
I don't think we're going to spend big money anywhere except on resigning our own FAs. Bruce Allen said, "We’re going to have to get about 20 new players for this football team.” If we want to do that, players like Byrd and Mack are out of the picture.
Bruce Allen expects to add 20 new players to Redskins' roster | Comcast SportsNet Washington (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/bruce-allen-expects-add-20-new-players-redskins-roster)
CRedskinsRule 02-19-2014, 07:46 PM I don't think we're going to spend big money anywhere except on resigning our own FAs. Bruce Allen said, "We’re going to have to get about 20 new players for this football team.” If we want to do that, players like Byrd and Mack are out of the picture.
Bruce Allen expects to add 20 new players to Redskins' roster | Comcast SportsNet Washington (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/bruce-allen-expects-add-20-new-players-redskins-roster)
20 players, not all are going to be pricey.
you figure 6-8 draft picks. BA seems to be pretty good at moving around in the draft so I figure even without trading KC we probably end up with 8.
3-5 mid level FA's who are competition and priced at about the slots they are filling,
1-3 impact FAs, Byrd or Mack might make a lot of sense, also a solid RT, these are the guys who salary cap room means we have a chance.
and then about 5-8 undrafted rookies or training camp bodies whose salaries will never break the top 51.
He's not talking 20 starting caliber players.
SirLK26 02-19-2014, 08:47 PM Maybe one elite FA is a possibility. Like I've said before, I'm no cap expert. But after we resign Orakpo, Riley, Baker, Jackson, and Moss, to list some of the most expensive, we'll probably have less than 15 million in space left(unless we tag Orakpo; in that case, it will be considerably less). If you add in an elite FA, you're at less than 10 million in space; with draft picks, UDFAs, and lots of FAs still to sign.
Perhaps I'm way off base and/or not explaining myself very well. If that's the case, I trust someone more cap-knowledgeable than myself will weigh in.
Schneed10 02-19-2014, 08:48 PM I don't think we're going to spend big money anywhere except on resigning our own FAs. Bruce Allen said, "We’re going to have to get about 20 new players for this football team.” If we want to do that, players like Byrd and Mack are out of the picture.
Bruce Allen expects to add 20 new players to Redskins' roster | Comcast SportsNet Washington (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/bruce-allen-expects-add-20-new-players-redskins-roster)
Yeah don't forget, for every player you sign you bump someone else out of the top 51. So sign someone for $750K, you bump out the 51st player whose cap hit is $500K. So the net impact is only $250K.
They'll get a lot of those kind of guys. They can still afford a Byrd if they want.
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