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PSUSkinsFan21
05-18-2005, 08:35 AM
Regardless of what his reasons are (contract or otherwise), the kid needs to grow up. There is NO EXCUSE for him not being with his team right now.....NONE.
It's wrong, period.

If it's because of his contract, the Skins need to take a stand and let him sit as long as he wants. If we give in to some 2nd year punk before the Eagles give in to arguably the best WR in the game, we'll be the laughing stock of the NFL and the whipping boy of every NFL player and agent.

If it's because he wants to work out in Miami, then he needs to actually get his lazy A$$ to Miami's facilities and work out (and no, one half court basketball game all through the off-season doesn't count as "working out" in Miami). And even if that is his excuse, aren't we past that? It's time to learn the system and put down the weights for a little while. Get with the program Sean.

FRPLG
05-18-2005, 08:39 AM
The ESPN article was just retread from the past. There was nothing new. It is striking that no one in the Taylor camp ahs even hinted at a enw new deal. It seems like it is all speculation.
The WP concerns me though. I mean when is this guy going to grow a pair? I am tired of the thin skined 22 year old acting like a 4 year old. Grow the f%^& up you idiot.
Just wondering, but cant teams put a "no-holdout" clause in contracts? Something like the player will have to forfit "X" amount of his bounus if he were to hold out within the first "Y" amount of years of the contract.

That way most holdouts would only occur when players want extensions or if they were in the last year of there contract...
I doubt it is permittable by the CBA (that is just a guess) but even if it isn't I don't think an agent would ever let a player sign a deal like that. Hell it might even be unfair labor practice to have a deal like that for all I know. I mean that practically enslaves a guy to a team.

irish
05-18-2005, 08:45 AM
This guy is the most unprofessional player the skins have had in a long time. There is no way the skins should give him a new contract and what the skins really should do is look to trade him for some draft picks. ST wont make or break this team so the skins should not put up with his $hit.

Redskins8588
05-18-2005, 08:51 AM
I doubt it is permittable by the CBA (that is just a guess) but even if it isn't I don't think an agent would ever let a player sign a deal like that. Hell it might even be unfair labor practice to have a deal like that for all I know. I mean that practically enslaves a guy to a team.
I understand what you mean, but I am talking mostly for rookies. Also how would it enslave a guy to a team?

Base on my example lets say the Redskins sign Carlos Rodgers to a $26 million 5 year contract with $12 million gaurenteed. In the contract have it stated that if Carlos holds out in his 1st, 2nd, 3rd year he will have to for fit $6.5 million of his bouns back to the team.

This way the player and his agent will be on the ball when they actually sign as not to go threw a hold where he would loose over half his bounus. Also then Carlos would have 2 years left under contract to the Redskins where he could either decied if he would want to ride it out to free agency, hold out for a contract extension, or re-sign to a new contract.

This way also the team would have had more than enough time to evaluate him to decide if they should re-sign him or let him go to free agency. Basicly they could asses his value easier than say after 1 season....

skinsguy
05-18-2005, 11:49 AM
How can a guy be burned out on football after one year? I'm curious to learn the entire story.

Daseal
05-18-2005, 12:43 PM
No new Sean Taylor avatar?! Guess we'll have to keep chad morton as whatever rank CRT3 is!

Skinsguy - did you notice how ST was crucified by the DC media? When he got pulled over for drunk driving (innocent), missing 1 day of the rookie synopsis, etc, etc, etc. I think he's basicly upset about a lot of that stuff and want's to get his head straight. I think he'll be okay.

BossHog
05-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Hardball is a MF. I can't believe Taylor signed that contract. Although he was drafted fifth overall, he is a safety (shouldn't that be considered?). Was Rosenhaus his agent at the time? The real question is how much more does he want? If he continues to have a healthy and productive career, there will come a time for another big payday. Unfortunately, tomorrow is not guaranteed. He's not at the level of Ed Reed or Roy Williams. And I would like to know what these guys played for with their rookie contracts. :oink:

Longtimefan
05-18-2005, 02:03 PM
As much as I hate to say this; the Redskins are one team partly responsible for Taylor's flawed ambition. The same thing that will make you laugh, will make you cry. Last year when they took Portis off Denver's hands in a very simular situation they set the stage for this kind of behavior. The only difference, Portis changed teams, and I would imagine Taylor's desire is to remain with the Redskins, but for more money. No strange coincidence then that somehow Portis seems to be his liason to the team. He can't communicate with the coaching staff for whatever his reasons, but somehow manages to relate through another player.

This very time last year we were discussing charachter issues in deciding which players to consider drafting, KW II or ST. Somehow we thought we were getting the better end of the deal in taking ST but it seems to be getting to a point where it's a toos up between the two. Charachter was a point of emphasis that Gibbs placed great demand, but it could be that we have struck out on ST despite his physical attributes. "You pay them millions, and then have to beg them to show up" Joe Gibbs
Nowhere, other than in proffessional sports would this form of stupidity be rewarded.

PSUSkinsFan21
05-18-2005, 02:07 PM
He's not at the level of Ed Reed or Roy Williams. And I would like to know what these guys played for with their rookie contracts. :oink:

Ed Reed: Signing bonus in 2002 of $3,625,000.
Salaries:
2002-$275,000
2003-$443,750 (plus $1,300 in "other" bonuses)
2004-$512,500 (plus $500 in "other" bonuses)
and I've heard he's scheduled to make about $560-570,000 in 2005.

Roy Williams: Signing bonus of $4,000,000 in 2002, and another bonus in 2003 of $5,300,000.
Salaries:
2002-$1,000,000
2003-$366,667 (plus $4,000 in "other" bonuses)
2004-$616,667 (plus $3,800 in "other" bonuses)

Sean Taylor: Singing bonus of $7,200,000 in 2004.
Salaries:
2004-$230,000 (plus $730,000 in "other" bonuses)

$7.2 Million signing bonus we already gave him, pluse he earned almost another $1 Million in salary and bonuses last year AS A ROOKIE SAFETY, and this guy is complaining about his contract? Are you kidding me? It was all up front money..........guaranteed up front money, and he's complaining?

TheMalcolmConnection
05-18-2005, 02:08 PM
Honestly, if we're going to take what Gibbs and Portis are saying, I don't think he is complaining about his contract. I think (so far) that rumor has been put to rest for the moment. However, not showing up because he's burnt out from football, that is nearly as worrysome.

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