Thrash is a Redskin WOW????? (Merged)

With a move like this, I agree that Rod Gardner is on the way out. So we line up with Coles, McCants, Jacobs, and Thrash.

Yes, this is a message move about the importance of special teams. It is a move to get a Redskin type of player, and to probably trade a guy in Gardner who may well be a better fit on another team.

This is good solid move by the Redskins. We need Thrash's energy and enthusiasm and fire.

I've been hearing about the salary cap ramifications of Snyder's moves since he bought the team. Remember how adding Bruce Smith, Jeff George and Deion were going to ruin the Redskins' cap? Never happened, did it? Snyder is willing to overpay but not all that money is guaranteed and not all of it counts against the cap. We're lucky to have an owner who's willing to spend. Ask the Bengals and some other teams what it's like to have a cheap owner. They'll tell you it sucks. Regardless, this is Joe Gibbs' team now. And I'll go with him everytime, no matter how many of my fellow fans are exasperated by his personnel moves.

And even if you are right and this does turn out to be a fruitless trade, what's the harm? We lose a 5th round pick in 2005. BFD.


a couple of years ago the skins had the highest dead money charge in the league. Its was direct result of the spending spree you just mentioned, so there was ramifaications. We just didn't feel it that much because our team sucked.

Skins 009: We don't know the roster yet, so I'm not sure we can really judge things yet.

As for contracts, only Portis and Brunell got really big ones, and only Brunells is at all suspect, because of his age. Portis could be a very nice deal if he remains anywhere near his production levels. Salaries are only going to go up. Did we really severely overpay for Griffen and Springs? We didn't sign Champ and Kearse, like everyone thought we would.

Thrash is a special teamer and vet reciever. He helps on returns, and maybe makes Gardner expendable (along with the emergence of Jacobs and McCants).

As for St. Bobby, while I appreciated his skill, I think Gibbs often made him look good by making silk purses out of sows' ears. Gibbs gets the best out of his players. Would Spurrier or Norvil have done that?

As for cap hell, well, we'll see. I figure the league will bump up the cap in the next two years. We'll restructure a few deals, drop a few heavy contracts, and go from there. FA actually works both ways. It can be an opportunity to build a team. The Ravens won it. I think the Bucs we're like that too, maybe: the got Christie, etc, on the Oline, BJ as QB, Keyshawn, Gruden. In the end, I think it's coaches over FOs/GMs these days. Bellicheck probably matters more than the draft. Likewise with Gibbs.

But we need a good honest contrarian in our midsts, 009, and you may turn out to be right. Sometimes, the emporer has no clothes.

But not today. He's wearing Burgundy and Gold.

OK, for those who forgot how good the Bobby and Joe team were, thanks to Bobby's drafting and Gibbs coaching we got to 3 SB's. However, Booby's skill was the draft (and he still made some mistakes). These days the trick is FA, and I'm not sure any GM can assess veteran talent better than veteran coaches.

Depending how we do in this draft, we may need someone in who can pick college kids, but I'll give our coaches the benefit of the doubt for now.

As to this deal, I see it as only a benefit. It gives us immediate depth on the return teams - we now have 2 quality kickoff returners. It also allows us to lose Gardner without worrying about depth. Coles, Jacobs, McCants and Thrash as our 1st 4 receivers isn't a bad combo, especially considering the reports on Jacobs in minicamp.

It also makes me think even more that we are trying to acquire more picks to trade up with. IF the Lions aren't sold on taking Taylor or Winslow (whoever we decide to pick at 5), they may be willing to trade down. In that case we get both and possibly a DL as well. Either that or we trade up to late 1st/early 2nd and get one of the top DL available.

In any case I see a much improved roster and coaching staff next season. I'm not worried about the cap, because whatever people say, every team has had some cap problems and they all seem to work around them.

STUPID MOVE!!! Say what you want, but this guy will be lucky to crack a roster spot, hes not better than coles, gardner or mccants, proboly no bettter than jacobs and hes proboly on the same level as Cliff Russel.

The word is.... Thrash is being traded to us for NEXT year's 5th round pick....

I guess SOMETHING has to give.... We have Coles, we will re-sign McCants most likely... Gibbs has praised Taylor Jacobs so far in camp saying he has impressed... and then there's Rod Gardner.

Why we need Thrash is beyond me...

Maybe we are going to trade Gardner after all?? I don't know...

Even with Gardner gone we just signed that new receiver (who's name escapes me at the moment), plus we have Scott Cloman, who I would definitly like to see get some play time, along with Richmond Flowers (or did we lose him last year?) I think these guys could be really good given the oppurtunity.

I think Taylor Jacobs and Coles will be our starters by the end of this year.

Since I don't read minds, I don't know why the Skins felt a need to try to acquire James Thrash but let me offer a couple of possibilities:

1. The coaching staff has looked at the game tapes from last year and decided that outside of Coles, there are no top-shelf receivers on the squad. Hence, the need to find an experienced WR who is a "solid citizen" to help develop one or two of the young recievers.

2. Maybe James Thrash shows himself to be the kind of player that Joe Gibbs wants on his team in terms of the way he plays the game.

3. Maybe James Thrash is the punt returner that the Skins ought to seek because Morton is not nearly as good returning punts as he is kickoffs.

It's close to being a done deal, Thrash for a late round pick in 2005 per the Times

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20040330-122047-3841r.htm

I know it seems like an odd move, but Thrash is definitely a Gibbs kinda guy. He gives 110% effort and is a solid locker room presence. Look at it this way, we lost Patrick Johnson and replaced him with Thrash. I say that's a win for us.

He's a solid special teams guy, I think that's the main motivation for bringing him in.

Maybe we could get Albert Connel too if he's not in jail!!!! :food-smil

Albert Connell would be a great pickup. His experience and leadership will....wait, hold on a second, has anyone seen my wallet? I'll finish this post when I find it.....


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