Around the NFL: Offseason edition 2.0

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dmek25
06-30-2016, 04:05 PM
schneed, the cowboys now have 3 players suspended. what does that do to their cap? is it just like nothing happened?

punch it in
06-30-2016, 04:12 PM
Great question, this gets to useful specifics. He was signed through this upcoming season at $16M, but would have been a free agent in 2017.



According to OvertheCap, here is the projected cap room by team in 2017. I bolded the ones that are QB needy:



Buccaneers 62,557,050 - Winston would not stop you from signing luck

Patriots 62,426,481

Broncos 59,239,449

Cardinals 56,230,817

Bears 54,634,333

Steelers 52,367,705

Panthers 48,671,301

49ers 44,841,486

Browns 44,673,390

Raiders 44,387,278

Colts 42,205,426

Bengals 41,059,865

Titans 40,579,159

Redskins 40,574,496

Lions 39,130,414

Saints 38,993,067 Brees is also FA in 2017

Seahawks 33,706,790

Bills 32,486,952

Vikings 31,849,040

Falcons 31,583,760

Rams 31,348,342

Chargers 26,836,303

Packers 24,708,254



You don't think John Elway would pay ANYTHING to get Andrew Luck, with that much free space in 2017? Luck held every card in the fucking deck. The Colts were held hostage, they had no choice.



I am not nearly as sold on Winston as I am on Carr in Oakland. I would not have him on the list.

JoeRedskin
06-30-2016, 04:18 PM
For the second straight year Cowboys linebacker Rolando McClain will be suspended to start the season. Sources tell Adam Schefter and myself that McClain will be suspended the first 10 games for violating the substance abuse policy. In March McClain was re-signed to a one-year deal worth up to $5 million but he could forfeit his $750,000 signing bonus.

Oh wow...are you kidding me? LOL.

Rolando McClain suspended for 10 games | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/30/rolando-mcclain-suspended-for-10-games/)

You know, I wondered why he was eating all my Doritos ...

Schneed10
06-30-2016, 04:21 PM
I am not nearly as sold on Winston as I am on Carr in Oakland. I would not have him on the list.

Probably right. If I were the Raiders and had $60M in cap space instead of $44M, I might go for Luck over Carr. But at $44M, and Carr being on a pretty good arc, you're probably right.

JoeRedskin
06-30-2016, 04:25 PM
Both starting DEs are also suspended the first 4 games as well...

Yet the talking douchbag heads are all picking the 'Boys to win the East. Really? Based solely on Romo? LOL...

Romo is f'ing heroic. A beast among boys. At the mere mention of his name, other teams just pee their pants and go home. When he walks onto the field, victory is assured each and every time ...

... until he stumbles during warm-ups and his collar bone spontaneously snaps into sixteen pieces while his surgically repaired back has seven vertebrae pop out alignment.

Schneed10
06-30-2016, 04:31 PM
schneed, the cowboys now have 3 players suspended. what does that do to their cap? is it just like nothing happened?

Great question.

So let's take McClain. He is suspended 10 games. The Cowboys will get relief on their salary cap for the 10 games he misses, so they open up cap space by the amount of whatever game checks he misses out on during the suspension.

But, in order to accrue a "league season" you need to be on the active roster (and not suspended) for at least six games. So if McClain comes back for the last six games and is active on game days, he accrues a league season, and thus is one year closer to free agency.

If he doesn't get through 6 games on the active roster, he does not accrue a league season, meaning his contract with the Cowboys essentially extends by one year. It's like being held back in 2nd grade to repeat it after failing too many classes.

In the event he does not accrue the league season, his 2016 salary would essentially become his 2017 salary, and his 2017 salary would become his 2018 salary. Etc.

The cap space created by McClain's suspension this year will roll into next year, if it goes unused. So in a way, from a STRICT salary cap perspective, the Cowboys might be onto something by employing players prone to suspension. The plus side is it offers salary cap relief. I would never want to build a team that way, bad character doesn't win, but you do get a break on the cap during a suspension.

Schneed10
06-30-2016, 04:35 PM
Romo is f'ing heroic. A beast among boys. At the mere mention of his name, other teams just pee their pants and go home. When he walks onto the field, victory is assured each and every time ...

... until he stumbles during warm-ups and his collar bone spontaneously snaps into sixteen pieces while his surgically repaired back has seven vertebrae pop out alignment.

I don't like Fletcher Cox. But I will like Fletcher Cox when he hits Romo. That dude doesn't just tackle QBs he slams them down like the Hulk flinging tanks.

Can't wait to see Romo's shit eating grin wiped away after that hit.

I do like Junior Galette though. A LOT.

JoeRedskin
06-30-2016, 05:06 PM
For the Cowboys to do anything, Elliot has to be as good as advertised. Maybe he is. Maybe he isn't. Even if he is, their defense is filled with question marks.

The only thing that really sets them apart is that O-line. It's filled with talent. Throw in Dez and, yes, they have offensive talent but I just am not seeing them stopping a lot of people or really having the offensive depth to hurt you a lot of different ways.

Stack the line for Elliot. Double Dez. They'll score some points but it's not like there a reincarnation of The Greatest Show on Turf.

SolidSnake84
06-30-2016, 05:53 PM
The Colts could have franchised him, but what's the point of that. You don't need Andrew Luck to prove himself one more time the way we need Cousins to.

I love Cousins, think he's great, think he's the best thing for this team in a long time, but i still think about the possibility of him playing in another uniform in 2017. Probably everyone has thought about it. I want to have hope for the "new regime" but i still get afraid sometimes that we will "redskin" the situation with cousins

MTK
06-30-2016, 09:19 PM
Cousins isn't going anywhere unless he completely tanks.

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