With the 17 pick, the Washington Redskins select...

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30gut
04-17-2017, 11:00 AM
...I believe that the best thing we could do for our team in this draft would be to improve our talent up the middle. By that I mean at NT/DT, ILB, and safety. In FA we signed some help in each of those areas but we need more.I think the best way to improve the defense are with pass coverage and pass rush. To me that means better CB play and an edge rusher opposite Kerrigan in nickel.

That brings me to the players you mentioned. I think Haason Reddick might well be the BPA at #17 and that meshes with what I think is our primary need on defense, so I'd pick him. In fact, I would pick him over Reuben Foster.Me too. I think Riddick is a stud and is going to be a stud in the NFL. Good size, great movement ability, great speed and can pass rush.



As for the edge rushers, I think #17 would probably be high for Tak McKinley because he is raw and needs some time to work on his technique with NFL coaches. He is a fast, powerful athlete with a good motor, so he could be very good in time.I agree 17 is high for Tak based on his production and lack of polish as a rusher. But when you're 6'2-250 and athletic w/ a 4.59-40 they tend to get pushed up the draft.

I would not draft Barnett at all. He's too slow for me and I don't think he'll be able to beat NFL OT's.Barnett is the opposite of Takk in that he's more polished and more productive but not as athletic. Barnett comes in to the league will a more complete passing rushing game and his tape backs it up.

Irrefutable
04-17-2017, 12:25 PM
FYI..... Richardson's salary is $8 million. They would probably need to make a couple cuts to create room.

McKinley is injured and may not be ready for training camp or the start of the season.

Takkarist McKinley injury bad news for LB-needy Indianapolis Colts - Indianapolis Colts Blog- ESPN (http://www.espn.com/blog/indianapolis-colts/post/_/id/19920/takkarist-mckinleys-injury-could-give-linebacker-needy-colts-one-less-option-in-first-round)

KI Skins Fan
04-17-2017, 03:43 PM
Barnett is the opposite of Takk in that he's more polished and more productive but not as athletic. Barnett comes in to the league will a more complete passing rushing game and his tape backs it up.

There's no doubt in my mind that Barnett is the better player right now. The problem I have with Barnett is my need for speed. I have no use for any edge player who can't run better than a 4.8 forty.

What do you think of the Skins drafting Carl Lawson at #17? He has a great burst, he can rush inside as well as outside, and he's good against the run. He was very productive in college against top competition.

30gut
04-17-2017, 04:11 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that Barnett is the better player right now. The problem I have with Barnett is my need for speed. I have no use for any edge player who can't run better than a 4.8 forty.

What do you think of the Skins drafting Carl Lawson at #17? He has a great burst, he can rush inside as well as outside, and he's good against the run. He was very productive in college against top competition. I like Carl Lawson he was very productive this year up there with Derek Barnett. Lawson injury history will knock him down his draft grade. I like him just not a 17.

Kerrigan ran a 4.79 there's some good defensive ends that don't run sub 4.8. Derek Barnett's career production is up there with Myles Garrett comma dude broke Reggie White sack record at Tennessee. Derek Barnett is a Bola

los panda
04-17-2017, 06:06 PM
i really hope we trade down, so much gravy in the 25-50 range.

Irrefutable
04-17-2017, 06:57 PM
i really hope we trade down, so much gravy in the 25-50 range.

I agree 100%..... 5 picks in the first 4 rounds is not enough, there are so many immediate needs.... 2/3 DL - 1 OLB - 1 ILB - 1 CB - 1 S on defense

on offense 1 WR - 1 RB - 1 G - 1 C

Bangee7
04-17-2017, 07:52 PM
In the first round, if there is a clear-cut choice of BPA then I believe you need to go with the player who could become a star; however, if it is close between two players, then you might want to go with the one who plays a position of greater need.

I believe that the best thing we could do for our team in this draft would be to improve our talent up the middle. By that I mean at NT/DT, ILB, and safety. In FA we signed some help in each of those areas but we need more.

That brings me to the players you mentioned. I think Haason Reddick might well be the BPA at #17 and that meshes with what I think is our primary need on defense, so I'd pick him. In fact, I would pick him over Reuben Foster.

It's never a bad thing to pick a top-notch CB, so I'd have no problem with that.

As for the edge rushers, I think #17 would probably be high for Tak McKinley because he is raw and needs some time to work on his technique with NFL coaches. He is a fast, powerful athlete with a good motor, so he could be very good in time.

I would not draft Barnett at all. He's too slow for me and I don't think he'll be able to beat NFL OT's.

KI...you're hired. Pack your gear & get to Redskin Park A.S.A.P.

Just get me a C or Guard somewhere in the top 5 picks and you're golden!

Seriously, though, our biggest weakness is in the middle of the D. If we can focus on improving that, I think we're back in the playoffs and fighting for the division again.

KI Skins Fan
04-17-2017, 11:18 PM
KI...you're hired. Pack your gear & get to Redskin Park A.S.A.P.

Just get me a C or Guard somewhere in the top 5 picks and you're golden!

Seriously, though, our biggest weakness is in the middle of the D. If we can focus on improving that, I think we're back in the playoffs and fighting for the division again.

Thanks for the compliment. I think I can control my drinking problem long enough to get through the draft.

30gut
04-19-2017, 12:55 PM
In the first round, if there is a clear-cut choice of BPA then I believe you need to go with the player who could become a star; however, if it is close between two players, then you might want to go with the one who plays a position of greater need.I think I get what you mean but the concept of 'the player who could become a star' is subjective. I might think Reddick has star potential someone else might think Peppers etc.

I believe that the best thing we could do for our team in this draft would be to improve our talent up the middle. By that I mean at NT/DT, ILB, and safety. In FA we signed some help in each of those areas but we need more.I def agree we need to improve up the middle. That's always a solid way to approach a defense. Through FA we stabilized the ILBs and added 1 solid safety. That leaves 34 DE that can also play 3-tech in nickel.

But for me the biggest area we need to address is pass defense.
Which means coverage and pass rush. Thus my 3 high priority areas to address are: CB, Edge and 5-tech/3-tech.

KI Skins Fan
04-19-2017, 01:49 PM
I think I get what you mean but the concept of 'the player who could become a star' is subjective. I might think Reddick has star potential someone else might think Peppers etc.

I def agree we need to improve up the middle. That's always a solid way to approach a defense. Through FA we stabilized the ILBs and added 1 solid safety. That leaves 34 DE that can also play 3-tech in nickel.

But for me the biggest area we need to address is pass defense.
Which means coverage and pass rush. Thus my 3 high priority areas to address are: CB, Edge and 5-tech/3-tech.

No problem. Let's see, I'll give you CB Marion Humphrey in the first, DT Caleb Brantley in the second, and OLB Trey Hendrickson in the third.

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