Training Camp 2018

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FrenchSkin
08-22-2018, 03:41 AM
https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/8/21/17765498/doug-williams-presser-cam-sims-threw-a-hand-grenade-into-the-redskins-wr-competition


I think Sims is now my favorite underdog this year

He made some really nice catches, and I do love his toughness and attitude. And Gruden said he's "raw"... Well I can't wait to see what he'll do when he won't be raw anymore!

GridIron26
08-23-2018, 09:02 AM
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/23/cam-sims-redskins-leads-rookie-wrs-pro-football-focus-grades-preseason/

I think it is now safe to say that we will keep Sims on the roster when season starts. How amazing it would be if Sims eventually take over Doc's role in future? It sure would be a great way to make up for wasting a 1st round pick if Doc doesn't step up this year.

GridIron26
08-23-2018, 09:03 AM
He made some really nice catches, and I do love his toughness and attitude. And Gruden said he's "raw"... Well I can't wait to see what he'll do when he won't be raw anymore!

Me too, I think there's a chance we will get to see lot of him next year

MTK
08-23-2018, 09:09 AM
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/23/cam-sims-redskins-leads-rookie-wrs-pro-football-focus-grades-preseason/

I think it is now safe to say that we will keep Sims on the roster when season starts. How amazing it would be if Sims eventually take over Doc's role in future? It sure would be a great way to make up for wasting a 1st round pick if Doc doesn't step up this year.

What would be truly amazing is if Doctson and Sims are the starters next year. Why can't they both be successful?

GridIron26
08-23-2018, 10:48 AM
What would be truly amazing is if Doctson and Sims are the starters next year. Why can't they both be successful?

You are right.. I do still have hope for Doc. I suppose how things are going for him in training camp recently is diminishing my hope for him but you are still right to hope best for both.

JoeRedskin
08-23-2018, 01:11 PM
He made some really nice catches, and I do love his toughness and attitude. And Gruden said he's "raw"... Well I can't wait to see what he'll do when he won't be raw anymore!

Simms reminds me of Anquan Boldin. Not the fastest receiver but big, physical, with great body control, and good hands (AB was 6' 1", Simms is listed 6' 5" - both at 220lb). If he improves on his route running and works on his technique to get separation, he has long career ahead of him. I don't ever think he will be a true deep receiver (his 40 time is in the 4.6 range), but he could become a fantastic No. 2.

JoeRedskin
08-23-2018, 01:24 PM
Got this from reddit and have heard similar numbers before:

"A person who runs a 4.4, or a decent 40 time gets about 9.1 yards per second. A 4.6 person would run 8.7 yards per second."

So, a WR like Doctson, who runs with ~4.4, would have a full yard more separation than a receiver like Simms, who runs closer to 4.6, would have.

Obviously, pads, routes, defenders, turf, etc. all play a role in a player's game speed, and we have all seen that speed alone does not make a good WR. However, the physical difference that those .2's of a second represent are something that cannot be taught and, generally, are the difference between a WR being a true deep threat (which Doctson has the potential to be) and a very good, but limited, WR.

Mind you, I am not knocking Simms. I like him a LOT. It's just that, in addition to his "being raw," he has certain real physical limitations that may prevent him from ever becoming a true No. 1 WR. You can't teach speed.

KI Skins Fan
08-23-2018, 01:42 PM
Got this from reddit and have heard similar numbers before:

"A person who runs a 4.4, or a decent 40 time gets about 9.1 yards per second. A 4.6 person would run 8.7 yards per second."

So, a WR like Doctson, who runs with ~4.4, would have a full yard more separation than a receiver like Simms, who runs closer to 4.6, would have.

Obviously, pads, routes, defenders, turf, etc. all play a role in a player's game speed, and we have all seen that speed alone does not make a good WR. However, the physical difference that those .2's of a second represent are something that cannot be taught and, generally, are the difference between a WR being a true deep threat (which Doctson has the potential to be) and a very good, but limited, WR.

Mind you, I am not knocking Simms. I like him a LOT. It's just that, in addition to his "being raw," he has certain real physical limitations that may prevent him from ever becoming a true No. 1 WR. You can't teach speed.

You can't teach heart, either.

JoeRedskin
08-23-2018, 03:47 PM
^^ Okay. However, I haven't seen anything from either Doctson or Simms that they lack in that department.

MTK
08-23-2018, 03:55 PM
We've seen way too many WR training camp heroes over the years... Sims seems like a nice prospect don't get me wrong, but let's talk if/when he breaks into the starting lineup.

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