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Schneed10 03-27-2019, 09:56 AM The OP was updated to reflect the Ereck Flowers and DRC additions.
They continue to sit here with $12M in cap space, and we continue to see no news on the Brandon Scherff extension negotiations. I'm personally frustrated by both of those items.
There are still some helpful players out there, and here we sit with cap space going unused, and one of our best players going into the final year of his contract.
Ruhskins 03-27-2019, 10:53 AM I'm wondering how much a potential Reuben Foster suspension is affecting all these decisions. I see that Mason Foster is a potential cut, but the team probably won't do that until they find out R. Foster's fate for this upcoming season.
Also, I don't expect Scherff extension until the summer (Trent, RK were all done during the summer). I assume they'd want to get their spending for this offseason over and done with before they break the bank for Scherff.
Schneed10 03-27-2019, 11:30 AM I'm wondering how much a potential Reuben Foster suspension is affecting all these decisions. I see that Mason Foster is a potential cut, but the team probably won't do that until they find out R. Foster's fate for this upcoming season.
Also, I don't expect Scherff extension until the summer (Trent, RK were all done during the summer). I assume they'd want to get their spending for this offseason over and done with before they break the bank for Scherff.
You're probably right. Though if you're sitting there with $12M in cap space currently, and you know you're planning to renegotiate Scherff in the summer to pick up even more, then why the hell aren't you being more aggressive now about finding solutions in free agency. Inside LB aside, we have other needs.
Just frustrating. This team says it has a burning desire to win but it acts like it's content with 7-9.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-27-2019, 11:39 AM The OP was updated to reflect the Ereck Flowers and DRC additions.
They continue to sit here with $12M in cap space, and we continue to see no news on the Brandon Scherff extension negotiations. I'm personally frustrated by both of those items.
There are still some helpful players out there, and here we sit with cap space going unused, and one of our best players going into the final year of his contract.
I think others have mentioned that, historically, we do extensions in the summer. During his interview with JP yesterday, Bruce said that these things generally get done around NFL deadlines, so I don't think you should worry.
Really, there is any pressing reason to get a deal done now. There are no free agents out there worth spending big money on, so we don't NEED the additional cap space a Scherff extension would provide.
It also makes sense to wait until after the draft and post-June 1 cuts before extending him. Its entirely possible that during the draft, some team makes us a fantastic trade offer that involves Scherff. Or the draft plays out in such a way that a very talented guard is the BPA on our boards by a wide margin - possibly more than once. Or there is a surprise cut after the draft or June 1 of a player who is only slightly less talented than Scherff who can be had for half the cost. Or Scherff could get hurt working out.
These are just scenarios that make it wise to wait. If something doesn't get done by July/August, then we can start wondering if maybe the skins don't want to extend him or Scherff doesn't want to be here. But its way too early to get worried.
Schneed10 03-27-2019, 11:46 AM I'm not so much worried that Scherff won't get done. I think he will and the point is well taken that it's usually the summer.
My beef is with the assertion that there are no free agents out there currently worth spending money on. There are certainly no big names left, but did you know Ryan Grant is available? With our shitty WR situation I would think the team would sniff around on him. He's nothing more than a #3, but we need a reliable #3. We need everything.
Skinsfanatic 03-27-2019, 12:29 PM I'm not so much worried that Scherff won't get done. I think he will and the point is well taken that it's usually the summer.
My beef is with the assertion that there are no free agents out there currently worth spending money on. There are certainly no big names left, but did you know Ryan Grant is available? With our shitty WR situation I would think the team would sniff around on him. He's nothing more than a #3, but we need a reliable #3. We need everything.
I think you go get someone like Tre Boston so we have our safeties set and can concentrate on other needs in the draft.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-27-2019, 01:55 PM My beef is with the assertion that there are no free agents out there currently worth spending money on. There are certainly no big names left, but did you know Ryan Grant is available? With our shitty WR situation I would think the team would sniff around on him. He's nothing more than a #3, but we need a reliable #3. We need everything.
I get where you are coming from, but here is my thought process. Any free agents we signed now are not markedly better than those we could sign after the draft. And there are always a plethora of players cut from other teams after the draft and June 1. Players who are release do not count against the compensatory pick formula. Free agents we sign now would.
So, if the low-mid tier players available now aren't significantly better than those we could get later, WHY NOT wait and see what we get in the draft, wait and see who gets released after the draft and June 1, and then fill whatever holes are remaining? By doing this, we position ourselves to maximize the 2020 compensatory picks we receive (right now we should get a 4th rounder for Crowder).
Other than grabbing top free agents that sign in the first few days of free agency, there really is no benefit to try and fill remaining holes at this stage of the offseason.
Schneed10 03-27-2019, 03:03 PM I get where you are coming from, but here is my thought process. Any free agents we signed now are not markedly better than those we could sign after the draft. And there are always a plethora of players cut from other teams after the draft and June 1. Players who are release do not count against the compensatory pick formula. Free agents we sign now would.
So, if the low-mid tier players available now aren't significantly better than those we could get later, WHY NOT wait and see what we get in the draft, wait and see who gets released after the draft and June 1, and then fill whatever holes are remaining? By doing this, we position ourselves to maximize the 2020 compensatory picks we receive (right now we should get a 4th rounder for Crowder).
Other than grabbing top free agents that sign in the first few days of free agency, there really is no benefit to try and fill remaining holes at this stage of the offseason.
Tons of the guys available right now were released this offseason. Ryan Grant is one of them.
BigHairedAristocrat 03-28-2019, 12:08 PM Tons of the guys available right now were released this offseason. Ryan Grant is one of them.
Yeah, and Ryan Grant was released for a reason. The same reason we let him walk last year - He's not any good. In my opinion, he doesn't represent even a slight upgrade over what we have already - and we are fully expected to address WR in the draft. So why sign Grant now just to drop him in a couple months?
Schneed10 03-28-2019, 01:38 PM Well he was dropped by Indy because he was making $7M or $8M or whatever it was. He might be gettable at $1.5M now. But he's just an example, there are lots of guys like him out there and if you don't think he can help us I think you overrate our roster a bit.
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