skinsfaninok
04-29-2020, 11:58 AM
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HowaO.00.htm
Rookie year, ok not terrible.
In 2018 he got hurt second half of year, but was considered have a top 5 TE year. He graded out at 89 on PFF “elite”. Was on pace 56 catches and over 900 yards receiving.
Last year was a coaching change and new offense which doesn’t feature the TE. Still not a terrible year while still splitting time with Brate.
Guy was regarded highly coming out and obviously needs a change of scenery
I’m kinda lost how some think he’s not needed on this team? Have you seen the roster and look at Howard salary cap number...it’s nothing.
Get him on the fucking team NOW
Bingo
SunnySide
04-29-2020, 12:22 PM
Unfortunately, Howard struggled to find a niche in Bruce Arians’ offense, at least when it comes to personal statistics. Howard had just 34 receptions for 459 yards and one touchdown. His best catch of the year didn’t even come during an NFL game, but rather an MLB game. Howard even found himself in Arians’ doghouse early in the season for his lackluster play.
But, according to ESPN, Howard did a great job in one particular area this year. In their 2019 advanced statistics awards, ESPN said that according to the stats, Howard was the league’s best pass-blocking tight end.
“Bucs coach Bruce Arians never relied on Howard all that much as a receiver this season. But the young tight end did play a role in the passing game with a 98% PBWR (pass block win rate).”
https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/16/this-o-j-howard-stat-proves-he-was-an-effective-tight-end-this-year/
Thats juicy.
Wish I knew his run block win rate bc on passing plays, ideally he would be running a route more times than staying and blocking.
Chico23231
04-29-2020, 12:38 PM
If Brate is cut, I’d take him too. Solid vet who would start immediately
SFREDSKIN
04-29-2020, 12:53 PM
I would pick up Howard in a second. He was a stud in college, injuries and being drafted by a not so good team before Arians was a bad combo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGCLCBwzHU
SunnySide
04-29-2020, 01:10 PM
The Buccaneers had discussions in February about trading Howard to Washington in exchange for left tackle Trent Williams, Jenna Laine of ESPN.com reports.
The teams obviously were unable to reach an agreement at the time, but Tampa Bay's recent acquisition of Rob Gronkowski could lead to reduced trade demands for Howard, who can be kept under team control through 2021 via the fifth-year option on his rookie contract. The Bucs face a May 4 deadline to decide on that option, assuming the 25-year-old tight end remains on their roster. A trade with Washington would still make sense, but it would be tougher for Tampa to absorb Williams' large contract now that Gronkowski accounts for a sizable portion of the cap space that was remaining after the team signed quarterback Tom Brady. The Bucs might prefer compensation in the form of draft picks.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/buccaneers-o-j-howard-targeted-by-washington/
So Bucs get a 3rd round comp (most likely) if they keep him on a team friendly deal and then let him walk (after 2020 or 2021)
So why would the Bucs take anything less than a 3rd?
Has OJ made some noise? thretened to hold out? Anything to make moving him a team need?
Would OJ play with us without an extension?
Im intrigued. I dont want to give up a 2nd rounder though.
GridIron26
04-29-2020, 01:31 PM
I don't know if Jackson Kruger is legit but he made a nice breakdown video on Howard.
https://youtu.be/EQ4XwfgMOEc
Pervis_Griffith
04-29-2020, 01:42 PM
I would pick up Howard in a second. He was a stud in college, injuries and being drafted by a not so good team before Arians was a bad combo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGCLCBwzHU
He was a stud in college??
Hmmmm .... I'm not sure about that. His college stats are pedestrian.
4 years -- 7 TD's -- 2 of which came in the college national championship against a Clemson team who obviously decided to cover the better Bama weapons.
2013 - 10 games - 14 receptions - 2 TDs
2014 - 9 games - 17 receptions - 0 TDs
2015 - 12 games - 38 receptions - 2 TDs
2016 - 15 games - 45 receptions - 3 TDs
I wouldn't trade for him. But I'd pick him up on a one year prove it deal.
Cameron Brate on the other hand .... he'd be worth a trade.
Number44
04-29-2020, 01:49 PM
So Bucs get a 3rd round comp (most likely) if they keep him on a team friendly deal and then let him walk (after 2020 or 2021)
So why would the Bucs take anything less than a 3rd?
So they don't have to roster him and pay him for two years, perhaps? They've signed Gronk and seem to like Brate more than Howard, so he seems a bit expensive for a #3 TE. I read that they've already picked up the 5th year option on him. I'm guessing that was to possibly make him more attractive to a potential trade partner.
los panda
04-29-2020, 10:37 PM
Rounded up to B because we signed Moss UDFA.
It's hard to believe that we haven't drafted a TE since Sprinkle in 2017. Not 2020, 2019, or 2018 - and now look at us.
Meanwhile the Browns add Hooper, draft Harrison Bryant in the 4th, and pick up Njoku's 5th year option.
NYCskinfan82
04-29-2020, 10:55 PM
JMO dosen't matter how many TE's you sign it's whether you use them or not.