SkinzWin
04-29-2020, 11:18 PM
Saw a report that the Bucs did pick up OJ’s 5th year option. Doesn’t look like they are trying hard to get rid of him. Arians was interviewed recently and made a comment about why wouldn’t they like having that many good tight ends? I don’t foresee him going anywhere. Gronk did miss time with injuries before he retired.
FrenchSkin
04-29-2020, 11:46 PM
Saw a report that the Bucs did pick up OJ’s 5th year option. Doesn’t look like they are trying hard to get rid of him. Arians was interviewed recently and made a comment about why wouldn’t they like having that many good tight ends? I don’t foresee him going anywhere. Gronk did miss time with injuries before he retired.
Yeah Gronk is coming back from retirement so I don't see the issue with keeping a 25 years old solid TE for them.
sdskinsfan2001
04-30-2020, 03:57 AM
Brate or Howard would automatically jump to our number 1 TE.
The question is not taking either of them on the team, its do we offer a pick or wait it out for 1 of them to get released?
I'd do a 4th for either 1 of them. Anything more I'd hold my water.
AnonEmouse
04-30-2020, 05:30 AM
Personally I'd hold off offering picks for either of them. Firstly, if we are looking to round out the roster to becoming truly challenging next season we want to build our pool of picks, not trade them away. I agree with the predictions we'l be about 8-8 next year so likely mid to high round picks, so we could be trading away good picks (even a 4th rd) to teams for average players.
Secondly, sooner or later I reckon one of them will be released, if only for cap reasons. TB, I believe, have little space to work with especially after signing Brady and Gronk. Having 3 good TE's on the roster with other weaknesses makes no sense so I see them freeing up a slot and cap room for more signings. From what I read they won't free up much space with either contract, but...
Does OJ's 5th year option makes him more valuable in a trade for them?
KI Skins Fan
04-30-2020, 08:46 AM
What makes y'all think we'll get him if he is released? He'll be a free agent then.
AnonEmouse
04-30-2020, 09:10 AM
We have space to make a good offer don't we? Probably able to outbid a lot of other teams, plus we can make it a 1 year prove it deal to avoid a future hit if he doesn't pan out.
skinsfan69
04-30-2020, 09:29 AM
Gronk hasn't played in a year, has battled injuries and is now in his 30's. I doubt he's going to be the same player he was. Injury waiting to happen. I'm not even sure why Tampa Bay would want him. Maybe to sell tickets or get their fans excited. They're fine at TE w/ Brate and Howard imo.
SkinzWin
04-30-2020, 02:10 PM
We have space to make a good offer don't we? Probably able to outbid a lot of other teams, plus we can make it a 1 year prove it deal to avoid a future hit if he doesn't pan out.
Clearly Ron has shown he didn’t dislike our TE group enough to go out and get anyone, and especially not enough to go break the bank and overpay for a FA tight end. Don’t expect the Skins to be in the mix of one of the Bucs TEs are cut.
mooby
04-30-2020, 03:10 PM
Clearly Ron has shown he didn’t dislike our TE group enough to go out and get anyone, and especially not enough to go break the bank and overpay for a FA tight end. Don’t expect the Skins to be in the mix of one of the Bucs TEs are cut.
Never say never.
I was wrong about Howard being a cut candidate though, no way the Bucs would pick up his option if he didn't have some value.
SunnySide
04-30-2020, 03:10 PM
Clearly Ron has shown he didn’t dislike our TE group enough to go out and get anyone, and especially not enough to go break the bank and overpay for a FA tight end. Don’t expect the Skins to be in the mix of one of the Bucs TEs are cut.
Well we did make the second best offer to Hooper and went pretty far with trade negotiations for OJ so it wasn’t like they weren’t trying. I don’t think we need to try and address every hole with a long term solution in year 1. I do hope they spend some cap money bc while I understand the benefit of not using all of it so it rolls over .... but we roll over unused money every year so at what point do we “go for it”, put all available resources into winning.
I imagine going into year 2, we should have our long term solution at LT, TE and secondary.