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AnonEmouse
09-22-2020, 05:22 AM
This.

Agreed. I'm not convinced he is the answer or isn't, I'm prepared to give him more rope. I'm looking at pro's and con's (pro being to give him benefit of the doubt):

Pro's
He's had 2 coaching staff's and 2 systems in 2 years as a pro
Last years coaching staff didn't want him
He had only 2 seasons in college
He had 2 guys getting reps ahead of him last year before being made starter with little 1st team practice
He's shown leadership this year
As far as I can see he's got the respect of his teammates
He has one of, if not the worst OL in the league (over 11 games he's been sacked on over 10% of pass plays)
He has 1 top tier receiver and no top tier TE
The running game so far isn't consistent enough to take pressure of the passing game (restricting PA etc.)
He's only started 9 games, played in 11

Cons
poor technique
He's inaccurate
He starts cold in games
He seems to panic when given some time to throw (which isn't often), hence some of the inaccuracy

Overall I'd say he's got to overcome a lot of adversity here to shine. I don't see how anyone can say he's been given a fair crack of the whip, but yes, if he's still as bad by game 16, then maybe we do need to consider options.

But if we draft another QB high next year, how does that yet again limit our other options in the draft? We have so many holes to fill, and he proves at least capable as a game manager, why abandon the other needs yet again? Can any quality QB do well without at least a top 16 OL?

Put it this way; stick Carson Wentz behind this line would he not be just as bad as he looks in Philly?

skinsfaninok
09-22-2020, 08:19 AM
The first area of conflict comes when Ron benches the owners hand picked qb and then wants to move on from him. We all know that day is coming at some point this season.

If he keeps playing this poorly then the owner can't say shit

FrenchSkin
09-22-2020, 08:40 AM
This team is not quite as good as they looked in quarters 2-4 last week, and they aren't quite as bad as they looked in quarters 1-3 yesterday. I think they are somewhere in the middle. One thing is for sure, they have to stop spotting the opponent 17-20 points.

It's been two games against two pretty good defenses. Turner has to look at these two games and figure out what works, and what doesn't...what DH is good at, and what he isn't.

I do expect a more complete game next week, with a faster (more competent) start from the offense. Gibson/McKissic averaged over 5 yards a carry combined. I look for them to pound the ball early and often against Cleveland.


This.

I predicted 5-11. We might do a bit better.

This team will beat bad to average teams, and lose to good teams. And I think AZ is a VERY good team.

KI Skins Fan
09-22-2020, 08:41 AM
I think Ron needs to show this film clip to the whole roster during game film or better before a game, it will make anyone go through a wall. https://youtu.be/N1sNs4a1XTY

I was there for the 1982 NFC Championship Game vs. the Cowboys! It was the most thrilling event, not football game, but EVENT I have ever attended. Did you notice the stands swaying from the fans jumping? It was like that for the entire game! I was literally afraid that the upper deck would collapse. I could go on and on about that game. It was amazing!

FrenchSkin
09-22-2020, 08:47 AM
When has the Oline been this bad?

There you go :

https://media3.giphy.com/media/i9wlNWZMAfbSifAEvC/giphy.gif

And the year before :

https://media3.giphy.com/media/KEN2g2DUzHtrHEAJeT/giphy.gif

Ruhskins
09-22-2020, 08:57 AM
The first area of conflict comes when Ron benches the owners hand picked qb and then wants to move on from him. We all know that day is coming at some point this season.

Time after time, RR has made decisions that no other coach has made before. If it comes down to RR having to bench Haskins, he'll do it in a heartbeat.

That being said, I don't see the need/benefit to move on from him. RR has time and he's made it very clear from the get go that change won't happen overnight. Hell, he's been saying that he doesn't see the offense coming together at all this offseason, which made sense having a whole bunch of nobodies and no offseason.

skinsfaninok
09-22-2020, 09:23 AM
After watching the A22 a few things really stood out.

1. Wr's lack of separation, AZ was all over our guys.
2. Haskins mechanics are BRUTAL, it's as bad as it gets for a 2nd yr QB. He actually looks confused on his reads.
3. The OL is bad but they gave Dwayne a few very good reps and time to throw, he just missed his targets.
4. CB's were both solid, the Safties were trash. Collins INT was just a horrible throw by K1.
5. AZ had an excellent gameplan on offense , quick game killed us and the pass rush.

Chico23231
09-22-2020, 09:24 AM
There you go :

https://media3.giphy.com/media/i9wlNWZMAfbSifAEvC/giphy.gif

And the year before :

https://media3.giphy.com/media/KEN2g2DUzHtrHEAJeT/giphy.gif

Lol thanks! I actually think u could throw next weeks lineup with schreff out and it could contend with both

skinsfaninok
09-22-2020, 09:27 AM
He's out 3-5 weeks.. Dude is always hurt.. Peace out man

FrenchSkin
09-22-2020, 09:37 AM
Lol thanks! I actually think u could throw next weeks lineup with schreff out and it could contend with both

Oh absolutely ! Even with Scherff, considering how bad he played the first 2 games, I'd say the 2020 OL 100% deserves to be on this podium of shame !

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