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Yeah Haskins needs to play better but you can't just look at his play without considering all of the other factors too. It's not an excuse to say the OL is garbage, it's just a fact. He's facing instant pressure way too often.
Chief X_Phackter 09-21-2020, 09:48 AM What I have heard about Haskins since he was thrown to the wolves last year is he continually progresses, gets better every week, doesn't make the same mistake twice, etc. Countless talking heads have sung those praises, consistently, and that cannot be ignored.
That being said, he has also been inaccurate at times, but I have to believe some of that inaccuracy comes from happy feet and anxiously trying to get rid of the football before he gets clobbered.
The O line has to improve. Honestly after Scherff went out last night, I thought the O line was better. Perhaps that was a coincidence...?
Ruhskins 09-21-2020, 09:53 AM What I have heard about Haskins since he was thrown to the wolves last year is he continually progresses, gets better every week, doesn't make the same mistake twice, etc. Countless talking heads have sung those praises, consistently, and that cannot be ignored.
That being said, he has also been inaccurate at times, but I have to believe some of that inaccuracy comes from happy feet and anxiously trying to get rid of the football before he gets clobbered.
The O line has to improve. Honestly after Scherff went out last night, I thought the O line was better. Perhaps that was a coincidence...?
People forget that last year's o-line, when Haskins was making a lot of progress towards the end of the season, was far better than the group we have now.
As Matty said, Haskins needs to play better period. But you can't overlook the fact that this o-line is straight up trash. They are not even mediocre, they are straight up terrible. Also, Scott Turner needs to draw up a gameplan with that in mind IMO.
skinsfaninok 09-21-2020, 10:02 AM Yeah Haskins needs to play better but you can't just look at his play without considering all of the other factors too. It's not an excuse to say the OL is garbage, it's just a fact. He's facing instant pressure way too often.
O for sure, it's not all on him at all.. The issue is when he has time he misses badly and that's not a good sign
Chief X_Phackter 09-21-2020, 10:06 AM People forget that last year's o-line, when Haskins was making a lot of progress towards the end of the season, was far better than the group we have now.
As Matty said, Haskins needs to play better period. But you can't overlook the fact that this o-line is straight up trash. They are not even mediocre, they are straight up terrible. Also, Scott Turner needs to draw up a gameplan with that in mind IMO.
I feel like he does...once they are down by more than 2 scores.
Summo 09-21-2020, 10:07 AM yea the left side of the o-line in particular. Im kinda surprised they didnt flip moses to LT, at this point he cant be any worse than Christian SR
skinsfan69 09-21-2020, 10:12 AM [QUOTE=Ruhskins;1259628]The bottom two QBs on this list are playing for their second HC in their second year. And that's probably one of the reasons why Jones is 0-2 and Haskins stunk it up yesterday.
We're in a rebuilding year and people already want to get rid of Haskins? If RR had drafted a rookie QB, I'd be all for getting rid of Haskins. But that's not the case.
If people were willing to give Cousins mediocre ass 4 years and put up a ton of excuses for him, we can give Haskins a full season to see if he's worth keeping.[/QUOTE
two different scenarios... - the difference is Cousins was not drafted here to start. he was drafted as a backup in the 4th round. he spot started for 3 years as insurance for rg until he won the job. but even in his spot starts kirk had some huge games. kirk's first start has easily been better than anything we've seen from DH. you simply can not compare the two at all.
skinsfaninok 09-21-2020, 10:14 AM [QUOTE=Ruhskins;1259628]The bottom two QBs on this list are playing for their second HC in their second year. And that's probably one of the reasons why Jones is 0-2 and Haskins stunk it up yesterday.
We're in a rebuilding year and people already want to get rid of Haskins? If RR had drafted a rookie QB, I'd be all for getting rid of Haskins. But that's not the case.
If people were willing to give Cousins mediocre ass 4 years and put up a ton of excuses for him, we can give Haskins a full season to see if he's worth keeping.[/QUOTE
two different scenarios... - the difference is Cousins was not drafted here to start. he was drafted as a backup in the 4th round. he spot started for 3 years as insurance for rg until he won the job. but even in his spot starts kirk had some huge games. kirk's first start has easily been better than anything we've seen from DH. you simply can not compare the two at all.
Kirk has a better OL though but yeah overall I'd still take KC over Haskins and said that when we let him go, I was mad then and still mad now. Yeah Kirk was awful yesterday but he is still a good QB
skinsfaninok 09-21-2020, 10:18 AM The trend has been horrible so far, Offense starts out like they have no clue what to do and we get down 17-0... You won't win many games like that.
Cleveland has a very below avg defense, no excuses this week
Turner also needs to step it up and get on the same page with Haskins right off the bat vs halfway through the game.
Basically, everyone on offense needs to step it up not just Dwayne.
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