Sources: Commanders finalize deal to make Eric Bieniemy new OC

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Giantone
02-19-2023, 04:06 PM
Make no mistake about it, the NFC East and Washington both improved a whole lot with this deal.

jamf
02-20-2023, 12:47 AM
Definitely approve. However, let's all be honest, KC wasn't winning SB's and becoming a top offense until Mahomes took over. It always comes down to players and most importantly who you got under center.

When Alex Smith was playing they were making the playoffs and getting bounced. They draft Mahomes, they got 2 SB's and now Andy Reid is going into the HOF.

Don’t worry, we got Sam Howell!

All joking aside, you’re right. Reid couldn’t win with good but not great QB play from Alex Smith and McNabb.

jamf
02-20-2023, 12:51 AM
In regards to the hire, I like it for the upcoming season but I still hope they blow it up when the new owner arrives.

CrazyCanuck
02-20-2023, 02:05 AM
Third times a charm for Washington when dealing with Andy Reid.

Lolol. There's a 3% chance this works out.

But it's all irrelevant until the ownership situation is settled.

Schneed10
02-20-2023, 09:40 AM
I didn't love Turner but I'm not sure the OC was ever the reason we've been bottom 3rd in the NFL in offense. It's more about iffy personnel moves especially along the OL and lack of ability to find a QB.

If those things get fixed with OL investment and Sam Howell becoming something useful, then EB will look like a genius. If they don't he's going to be playing with two hands tied behind his back just like Turner was.

To be clear I think EB is better than Turner so I approve of the hire but I'm just not convinced this is going to make a big difference. It's the blocking and the QB.

skinsfaninok
02-20-2023, 09:42 AM
I didn't love Turner but I'm not sure the OC was ever the reason we've been bottom 3rd in the NFL in offense. It's more about iffy personnel moves especially along the OL and lack of ability to find a QB.

If those things get fixed with OL investment and Sam Howell becoming something useful, then EB will look like a genius. If they don't he's going to be playing with two hands tied behind his back just like Turner was.

To be clear I think EB is better than Turner so I approve of the hire but I'm just not convinced this is going to make a big difference. It's the blocking and the QB.

Yeah until we find a QB NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.. I hope SH is that guy but right now we have no clue and neither does EB

punch it in
02-20-2023, 10:03 AM
How many times last year would one more TD have possibly won us a game? One more TD instead of a FG? Not hitting that wall at the 30 yard line due to piss poor play calling and piss poor quarterback play. One more first down here and there to give the D a much needed breather.
We do not need the greatest show on turf with our D. We need a semi competent offense. EB and Howell, imo, get us over that little hump that Turner and Wentz or Taylor couldn’t.

Even with the same oline we probably get over that hump and win a couple more games last year.
Fixing the oline is priority number one though.

Minny
Tennessee
Both Giants games.
Detroit?

All games that one more score would have won.

SunnySide
02-20-2023, 10:44 AM
EB is a better quality candidate than youd imagine we could land at this odd lame duck year coming up.

Im guessing hes one of the top 5 highest paid Coordinators.

Good for us. Not sure it adds a W to our record next year but it should be interesting to see a new philosophy.

Schneed10
02-20-2023, 10:48 AM
How many times last year would one more TD have possibly won us a game? One more TD instead of a FG? Not hitting that wall at the 30 yard line due to piss poor play calling and piss poor quarterback play. One more first down here and there to give the D a much needed breather.
We do not need the greatest show on turf with our D. We need a semi competent offense. EB and Howell, imo, get us over that little hump that Turner and Wentz or Taylor couldn’t.

Even with the same oline we probably get over that hump and win a couple more games last year.
Fixing the oline is priority number one though.

Minny
Tennessee
Both Giants games.
Detroit?

All games that one more score would have won.

You're kind of just waving the magic wand and saying one more score and boom four more wins. How do you know the team has time for the improvements in scheme to matter before the QB comes under pressure? How do you know Howell won't turn it over at the same rate that Wentz did?

I think the only definitively true thing you said is fixing the line is priority one. If that doesn't happen we'll be right around 500 again. If it gets fixed, then sure, playoffs are possible.

punch it in
02-20-2023, 11:44 AM
You're kind of just waving the magic wand and saying one more score and boom four more wins. How do you know the team has time for the improvements in scheme to matter before the QB comes under pressure? How do you know Howell won't turn it over at the same rate that Wentz did?

I think the only definitively true thing you said is fixing the line is priority one. If that doesn't happen we'll be right around 500 again. If it gets fixed, then sure, playoffs are possible.


Our offense was putrid last year Schneed. Especially when we got down around the opponents 40. How many times did you say wtf is Turner doing? I said it at least 5 times a game. Especially down in that area. Again, without an improved Oline our Offense will struggle. But a better playcall, a more mobile qb, and a more accurate throw probably result in another score here and there. I don’t think that is a far fetched assumption. There were plenty of times last year our oline held their own and we all asked wtf was that playcall or who the hell was he throwing to? We got a solid D, and plenty of weapons on offense. I think a more capable qb and OC would have had us in the playoffs last year. If you want to argue that Sam is better than Taylor or Carson well that is another story. I certainly think he is/will be.

Anyway fix the oline and couple that with EB and Sam and the offensive problems most definitely go away.

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