Most Overrated NFL Player?

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TheMalcolmConnection
07-07-2005, 01:21 PM
So Vick is over rated: 3 years playing, one year out hurt, one lossing season as QB and two trips to the play offs. That sounds pretty good to me.

Again. He wasn't the key reason for this type of success. It's his supporting cast that made this happen. The top rushing attack in the NFL and again, his Pro Bowl TE and defense.

This isn't aimed at you directly, but more of a general question: Why does everyone go to bat for Vick so readily? Honestly, I've seen more loyalty to him than a lot of Skins that we've had in the past year.

firstdown
07-07-2005, 01:36 PM
Again. He wasn't the key reason for this type of success. It's his supporting cast that made this happen. The top rushing attack in the NFL and again, his Pro Bowl TE and defense.

This isn't aimed at you directly, but more of a general question: Why does everyone go to bat for Vick so readily? Honestly, I've seen more loyalty to him than a lot of Skins that we've had in the past year.I'm not going to bat for him I just think that he is not over rated. In those rushing yards over 900 were Vicks subtract them and Atlanta is average at best.

MTK
07-07-2005, 01:45 PM
Vick definitely has an impact on the Falcons, I don't think that can be denied.

Discussions about who's overrated are kinda silly if you ask me. Overrated to me means they receive alot of hype in the media, but the guys that receive all the hype are generally very good players and deserve some of the hype they receive. That's why we're not discussing Ade Jimoh as the most overrated, or Corey Raymer.

Vick is definitely a media favorite. That being said, would the Falcons be the same team without him? No way.

The same goes for some of the other names being tossed around here. Deion overrated? C'mon the guy was the best pure cover corner the league has ever seen. Favre? How many MVP's does he have?

These guys might receive too much attention from the media, but that comes with the territory when you're a star player.

TheMalcolmConnection
07-07-2005, 01:53 PM
OK. True enough. Based on that argument, who really IS one of the most overrated players? Let's reset.

Red Robert
07-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Welcome to the board Sociofan, Deion is still in the league with the Ravens.

This thread could have been renamed the Mike Vick debate.

Who is the REDSKINS most overated and underated player?

Red Robert
07-07-2005, 02:27 PM
By the way mad props and much love to who ever started this thread, It has been great.

Schneed10
07-07-2005, 02:43 PM
I think it's pretty easy to see how valuable Vick is, look at the Falcons' record during the year he was hurt, and then look at their record when he is playing. That's as cut and dry as it gets.

On the Redskins, most overrated player is definitely LaVar. His athletic ability certainly isn't overrated, he's an athletic monster. But he can't put his head in the right place; tries to be the hero and make plays out of position. Marcus Washington is a more valuable linebacker because he knows his responsibilities, uses his head, stays disciplined, and unleashes a fair amount of athleticism and nastiness in his own right.

Dare I say it, but I think Samuels is a bit overrated too. I think he's a great LT and I'm real glad we have him, but I think we overpaid for him a bit. We paid him the 4th biggest LT contract out there, that's pro-bowl money, but he hasn't been to the pro-bowl in a while. I think we had no choice but to pay him this year, and I wouldn't change the decision. But he needs to step it up if his performance is going to match his pay.

Schneed10
07-07-2005, 02:44 PM
Underrated Redskin is Randy Thomas. I love that guy, he's one of the very best RGs in the league and nobody talks about him.

offiss
07-07-2005, 02:53 PM
Whether or not someone is overrated or underrated is so subjective in my book.

All I'm gonna say is Arrington may be overrated a bit, but the most overrated in the entire league?? I really don't agree.


A BIT???????????????????????

Who other than Lavar would carry that title?

Although I agree that Vick is vastly overated, at least he play's a position that happens to be the toughest on the field, his position as well takes some players 3 years and sometimes longer to really master, I think Vicks durability is his biggest problem, and a major reason why he will never really become a big time QB, but I wouldn't put him in front of Lavar for the most overated player in the league, that honor belongs to Lavar as I have been saying for the last year and a half.

MTK
07-07-2005, 02:54 PM
Thomas is definitely underrated and I'd throw Jansen in there too.

We saw how valuable he was when we lost him for an entire season. He never gets enough credit for being a top right tackle.

Overrated on the Skins, I can agree with Samuels and Arrington. Two high priced, high profile players.

Sometimes though it's impossible for these players to live up to their incredible hype. Look at the expectations LaVar came into the league with. He was dubbed the next LT... I'm sorry but there will never be another LT.

It's too bad that being the next LA will probably not be enough to satisfy his critics. It's really not fair to him when you think about it.

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