12thMan
12-01-2005, 08:42 AM
Let me also say, I apoligize if "cunt" offended some on the thread...but she's throwing salt in the wound and doesn't even care.
Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins12thMan 12-01-2005, 08:42 AM Let me also say, I apoligize if "cunt" offended some on the thread...but she's throwing salt in the wound and doesn't even care. SallyJenkins 12-01-2005, 08:57 AM Let me also say, I apoligize if "cunt" offended some on the thread...but she's throwing salt in the wound and doesn't even care. Apology accepted. Why can't you just accept the fact that I love those adorable Giants - especially little Eli. The Redskins are just so smelly. It is so much fun to write mean things about them because you guys get all worked up ... and that makes me get worked up (if you know what I mean). Go G-Men! Sally MTK 12-01-2005, 08:59 AM Another brilliantly crafted piece of positivity... too bad the team isn't giving her reason to not write junk like this. Let's face it, the team deserves any crap that's flung their way at this point. 12thMan 12-01-2005, 09:17 AM Apology accepted. Why can't you just accept the fact that I love those adorable Giants - especially little Eli. The Redskins are just so smelly. It is so much fun to write mean things about them because you guys get all worked up ... and that makes me get worked up (if you know what I mean). Go G-Men! Sally Oh Sally.....you're making me blush!! Cooley 350Z 12-01-2005, 09:39 AM I could care less about this article. She gets paid to write articles people will read, bottom-line. The easiest way to discredit her is to simply avoid her articles. If you see a link to an article by her, just pass it by. Everyone getting riled up, checking her facts (if you can call them facts) and then flaming her back is to simply say "I read this article and it grabbed my attention." Don't feed the fire, lets not give her an audience. redsk1 12-01-2005, 09:56 AM Bigskin, the reason she said 5th weakest schedule in the league is because before the start of the season, it was. Surprisingly, most of the teams we have played have winning records. Bears: 8-3 Cowboys - 7-4 Seahawks - 9-2 Broncos - 9-2 Chiefs - 7-4 49ers - 2-9 Giants - 7-4 Eagles - 5-6 Buccaneers - 7-4 Raiders - 4-7 Chargers - 7-4 as you can see, the teams we have played are a combined 82 - 51. That certainly is not the fifth weakest schedule in the league. She is just going on whatever looks best. mooby, you said it. i was going to make the same post. The fact is that we have played some very good teams and have been in almost every single game. I don't know of too many teams that have had as difficult schedule as we have. hail_2_da_skins 12-01-2005, 10:40 AM Sally Jenkins is definitely not my favorite columnist, but there is some painfull truth in some of her comments. Let's analyze her column. "At this point only the real burgundy-bleeders, the ones who sit in traffic to park in a littered pay lot and watch the Washington Redskins from the far reaches of the upper deck, who decorate their houses with Redskins door-knockers and table lamps, and their cars with antenna flags, believe that this can still be a deserving playoff team. No, the season's not over. Yes, they've got five games left. But this is the time of year when teams get better, or they get worse, and the Redskins at 5-6 have gotten decidedly worse. The trends are not good, and after 11 games, trends are the truth. What you are now is probably what you are, period." True. Playoff teams get better and win in November and December. "If you listen to Mr. Tony's radio show, you've heard his message of hope. If the Redskins can win at St. Louis and Arizona, they will be 7-6, and then anything is possible, especially with the NFC East still in a tumult. They could even run the table. The trouble is that nothing in the Redskins' recent play would lead you to think they can do it. If you believe they can, you probably wear a Redskins belt buckle. Playoff-bound teams, ascendant ones as opposed to deteriorating ones, don't look as if they've been stricken by bird flu. They haven't lost six of their last eight and blown three straight fourth-quarter leads, or dropped two in a row at home. Nor are they carping about officiating, bad luck and injuries. They're winning the close ones by doing the little things right instead of hoping for help from the opponents or the guys in striped shirts, or a sudden twist of fate." Painfully true. You can't keep blowing fourth quarter leads and complaining about officiating. "It's not just the big trends, the 5-6 mark against the fifth-weakest schedule in the league, and the fourth-quarter collapses that provoke skepticism. (As one of our headlines put it so aptly Monday, "Redskins Come From Ahead to Lose Again, in OT This Time.") It's the smaller, sickly trends that make it difficult to believe the Redskins can reverse the larger trends. Joe Gibbs has coached the Redskins for 27 games, and they've managed to score more than 21 points just four times. Clinton Portis has yet to rush for consecutive 100-yard games. On third-down conversions against San Diego on Sunday, they were 3 for 14, and in the fourth quarter alone they were 1 for 6." The weak schedule is absolutely false. She must be basing that on preseason predictions. It's got to be one of the toughest schedules based on this seasons results. "It's officially a trend when you get the ball at the opponent's 31-yard line -- and can't get close enough to kick a field goal. Watching the Redskins' offense has become a mental chore. For a quarter or two, it looks all right. You see some promise, you really do. And then the three-and-outs become numbing, and you find your mind wandering to other, more interesting things, like, how you need to recycle the dry-cleaning hangers in the closet, and clean the oven grease trap. Compare those trends to what some other teams are doing, trend-wise. Seattle, an early-season victim of the Redskins, has won seven straight. So has Chicago. Denver has won four in a row. So have the Chargers, who incidentally have managed to score at least 17 points in 25 straight games. Even Minnesota has won four in a row with Brad Johnson and is above .500 for the first time this season, and has a chance to get to 7-5 with the Lions coming up. As for the NFC East, the New York Giants and Eli Manning had won four of their previous five before their soul-searing loss in overtime to the Seahawks on Sunday, and if place kicker Jay Feely's leg works at all, they've won five of six. If you watched that game with any detachment, you thought, "I just watched two playoff teams." The trends are truefully disturbing. "The Redskins by comparison are a vague, blurry team with no clear identity. They're a ball-control team that can't control the ball, a big-play defense that hasn't made enough game-winning stops. They do a lot of good things, but they do as many bad things -- Casey Rabach didn't just hold that guy, he calf-roped him. Or they founder in the middle of the field doing nothing at all. They've been flat and cautious when it counted most, and their play-calling is indecipherable. The Redskins' lack of any distinguishing feature, of hard edges, has become their most defining characteristic. They are unremarkable." You have to admit that calf-roped comment was funny and on point. "Predictably so. And that brings us to the most chronic trend of all, the trend that has lasted more than five years now: The Redskins are in danger of becoming consistently, repeatedly, systematically, season after season, through changes in coaches, players, etc., etc., a losing franchise. You get the uneasy sense that what has happened to them in the last few games is part of some larger, long-term malaise for which they're not entirely responsible. You feel for Gibbs and his players, it's difficult to watch all that hard work and hard play disappear into the gloom that has marked Daniel Snyder's ownership. The Redskins put teams on the field under Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer that managed to lose critical close games . . . and now they've turned around and put a team on the field that lost critical close games to Norv Turner and Marty Schottenheimer. Worst of all, their chronic struggle to be better than a .500 team has not been especially interesting to watch. To find the Redskins interesting, you have to be strangely fascinated by malfunctions. You have to have a weird interest in the forensics of failure. Or you have to find their various capricious ways of losing suspenseful. And that trend is perhaps finally beginning to tell in the stands. There were 8,400 announced no-shows at FedEx Field on Sunday, which suggests that a fan base that has been historically one of the most passionate and loyal in all of pro football, may finally be feeling a tad fed up. It's a measure of Washingtonians' devotion and emotional generosity that so many keep showing up." These are the most painful truths. The Redskins have been mediocre or bad for awhile and it coincides with Dan Snyder's ownership. I like Danny Boy's desire to win, but are the Skins going about it the right way. firstdown 12-01-2005, 10:58 AM What hurts most alot of it is true. VTSkins897 12-01-2005, 10:58 AM but it's not like we're very good. until we stop doing the things she listed then we deserve it. except for the schedule thing. we've had a bear of a schedule. browning_buck 12-01-2005, 11:26 AM Playoff team????????? Now don't get me wrong but I think that we have seen enough of the Skins blowing it late in the game to say nice try better time next year. Quarterback? Who? Exactly!!! |
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