Those Burgundy Colored Glasses May Need Cleaning - Sally Jenkins

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FirstandTen
12-01-2005, 11:51 AM
I wonder how Sally saw the Skins fans she bashed from NYC?

JWsleep
12-01-2005, 11:58 AM
Yawn. What a surprise--Sally ripping the skins. I don't care that it's true. What bothers me is that she ONLY writes articles like this. Like we need salt in the wounds from a reporter at the Post. As I said in the last anti-Sally thread, my beef with her is that she writes like Dr. Z and Pasta, when she works at a local paper. And she seems to take shrill glee at being able to say "I told you so" to those among us who ACTUALLY LIKE THE SKINS!

Message to Sally: if you don't like the skins, don't write about them. It will save us all a modicum of pain--we've got enough to feel bad about without you kicking us when we're down.

PS Can't the Post find ANYONE who actually likes the skins? How about Joe Crisp, for example? Just a thought...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-01-2005, 02:43 PM
Another brilliantly crafted piece of positivity... too bad the team isn't giving her reason to not write junk like this. Let's face it, the team deserves any crap that's flung their way at this point.

I don't agree.

When reading a political opinion article, you can generally tell how intelligent and mature the author is by the words he/she uses. For example, college kids use big words without knowing what they mean and have no sense of proportion. They will refer to the US as an "imperialist power" and Guantanamo Bay as "Auschwitz." They will also often say that the world is coming to and end because of this politician or that politician. Everything is spoken in the language of hyperbole. A good and intelligent analyst will rationally look at events and present an unbiased, open, thoughtful, and realistic depiction of what he/she sees.

As much as I like Wilbon and Kornheiser, these guys are kings of hyperbole. And Sally Jenkins, well....she's Sally Jenkins. The press will make these melodramatic statements about the team because it sellls newspapers. People apparently like, and buy into, the "O'Reilly Factor" style of reporting. I don't.

This team has struggled lately closing out games. At the beginning of the season it was just the opposite; they were winning games in overtime and on the last play of the last drive of regulation.

Perhaps, a rash of injuries has affected the team's ability to close out games? Griffin, who IMHO is the defense's MVP, was out for the last month or so. Patten and Thrash have been injured for two weeks and two games. Samuels has been playing with gimpy legs. Jansen has been playing with broken thumbs. Perhaps, this team is simply crashing back to earth after thinking, early in the season, it was so much better than it really was. Perhaps, no one really knows what the problem or problems are.

The difference between a team that wins in OT and one that loses in OT is ever so slight. It is easy to say that good teams find ways to win in OT and bad ones find ways to lose. Well, what can people honestly say about a team that has done both? How can people say one week, the team is rock solid and the next week be ready to abandon them because they are so horrible?

CrazyCanuck
12-01-2005, 03:04 PM
gotcha, that is exactly why we hate her, we have played very good teams and she discredits her articles with dumbass comments like that. Most of her stuff is straight to the point and it is hard to argue but she has a way of putting in little things that change the tone of the articles. Most of the stuff is green but she always has to have that red stuff, and this is why some of us can say, 'well she is only speaking the truth' while others hate her so much. If she just sticked to the logical stuff i wouldn't mind her, infact some parts of her articles are really good and reflect EXACTLY what some of us are thinking.

Good analysis BigSkin. I also had a hard time arguing with most of what she said this time, but she always throws in those potshots (like the schedule comment) which discredit her valid comments.

MTK
12-01-2005, 03:25 PM
I don't agree.

When reading a political opinion article, you can generally tell how intelligent and mature the author is by the words he/she uses. For example, college kids use big words without knowing what they mean and have no sense of proportion. They will refer to the US as an "imperialist power" and Guantanamo Bay as "Auschwitz." They will also often say that the world is coming to and end because of this politician or that politician. Everything is spoken in the language of hyperbole. A good and intelligent analyst will rationally look at events and present an unbiased, open, thoughtful, and realistic depiction of what he/she sees.

As much as I like Wilbon and Kornheiser, these guys are kings of hyperbole. And Sally Jenkins, well....she's Sally Jenkins. The press will make these melodramatic statements about the team because it sellls newspapers. People apparently like, and buy into, the "O'Reilly Factor" style of reporting. I don't.

This team has struggled lately closing out games. At the beginning of the season it was just the opposite; they were winning games in overtime and on the last play of the last drive of regulation.

Perhaps, a rash of injuries has affected the team's ability to close out games? Griffin, who IMHO is the defense's MVP, was out for the last month or so. Patten and Thrash have been injured for two weeks and two games. Samuels has been playing with gimpy legs. Jansen has been playing with broken thumbs. Perhaps, this team is simply crashing back to earth after thinking, early in the season, it was so much better than it really was. Perhaps, no one really knows what the problem or problems are.

The difference between a team that wins in OT and one that loses in OT is ever so slight. It is easy to say that good teams find ways to win in OT and bad ones find ways to lose. Well, what can people honestly say about a team that has done both? How can people say one week, the team is rock solid and the next week be ready to abandon them because they are so horrible?

My basic point is if we were 8-3 right now she wouldn't have anything to complain about.

When you're 5-6, you have to take the heat, because frankly even though there are perfectly rational and logical explanations as to why we're are 5-6, the bottom line is we are 5-6 and quicking fading from the playoff race. Therefore hacks like Jenkins have fuel for their fire.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-01-2005, 03:32 PM
What I thought was the snottiest part of that article was how she was taking a shot at the fans. I mean it was straight up making fun of people who actually care about the team. I'm sure that was taken too well by ANYONE who likes the Skins.

MTK
12-01-2005, 03:34 PM
What I thought was the snottiest part of that article was how she was taking a shot at the fans. I mean it was straight up making fun of people who actually care about the team. I'm sure that was taken too well by ANYONE who likes the Skins.

Yeah that was a low blow, but par for the course with her.

Riggo44
12-01-2005, 03:45 PM
:pffff: Who cares what that :censored: has to say! :httr:

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
12-01-2005, 08:05 PM
My basic point is if we were 8-3 right now she wouldn't have anything to complain about.

When you're 5-6, you have to take the heat, because frankly even though there are perfectly rational and logical explanations as to why we're are 5-6, the bottom line is we are 5-6 and quicking fading from the playoff race. Therefore hacks like Jenkins have fuel for their fire.

There is definately stuff to complain about; the defense gives us big plays at critical points in the game after playing at such a high level in the first 3 quarters, the defense can't get turnovers, the offense can't score points, the offense can't throw the ball deep anymore, special teams has been questionable, and we've lost a lot of games in the past 7 weeks. BUT, it's one thing to recognize those flaws as flaws, it's a different matter to allow those flaws to totally consume your analysis of a team.

There are a lot of people who say, "you are what you are." These people will look solely at a record and say, "the record is all that counts." Yet, these same people will say that we are in a total freefall and we stink. Well, these people should pay heed to their own sayings. We are what we are and our record suggests that we are an average team that loses games by a few points and wins games by a few points. It doesn't matter if you start out hot and then fade, start out cold and get hot, or stay lukewarm all season. All that matters is how many Ws and Ls you have at the END of the season.

skinsguy
12-01-2005, 08:21 PM
I think the biggest flaw we have is depth. As long as the starters are all healthy, we seem to be able to pull out the close wins, but when we start having key guys injured like Griffin, Betts, Springs, or Taylor, our weaknesses are exposed. I believe that was another key ingredient that made Gibbs' first tenure a success - having a deep roster. It is probably tougher to have such a deep roster nowadays, so more importance is placed on the starters staying healthy.

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