Poll: Starting QB 2006

I don't think so. QBs are held to different standards. Nobody talks about how many games a RB or WR has won. If we don't make the playoffs, people will look back and ask why we brought in an aging QB instead of grooming younger talent.

Certainly, a QB surrounded by ZERO talent will get some slack, but that's not the case here. We DEFINITELY need some help, but this team is not completely devoid of talent.


So then, the question has to be asked: why should the quarterback be held at a different standard? If the quaterback is doing his job, which I believe Mark Brunell is doing, then why should the talent around him get a free get out of jail pass if the team as a whole is not winning?

hahaha...and why oh why the Kurt Warner era????? Why not the Ramsey era??? He was a 1st Rounder...i mean did he come out of college with a sign on his back that read destined to never play. People ought to realize that going out and getting a veteran guy while we had a 1st rounder entering his 3rd year in the league was a choice...rather than a necessity and in my opinion as it stand right now...it looks like we made the wrong choice.

Because Gibbs obviously saw something in Ramsey that he did not like and felt we needed a veteran.. If you can't understand that Ramsey was not, is not and will never be an option under Gibbs then im sorry.

We signed Mark Brunell because we felt he gave us the best chance to win. We have also signed other players to help us to win. My question to you is this: going by what you stated, should the Redskins end this season without a playoff appearance, then should we not cut every player that we have paid tons of money to? It only makes sense. Why would you only cut Brunell - who has been doing his job - and not cut Moss, Portis, Springs, Carlos Rogers, etc.....do you see my point? This is a team sport. You win as a team, you lose as a team.

I'm just curious - do you feel that QBs are held to the same standard as other skill positions?

I really don't think that's the case, but that seems to be what you are arguing. Barry Sanders didn't get benched because he produced. QBs, however, get benched or cut despite talent if they don't produce wins (Jeff George?).

Granted, I could be wrong, but I don't think this discussion is going anywhere if everyone is operating off of different assumptions.

So then, the question has to be asked: why should the quarterback be held at a different standard? If the quaterback is doing his job, which I believe Mark Brunell is doing, then why should the talent around him get a free get out of jail pass if the team as a whole is not winning?

Sorry - I was typing when you posted this. I don't claim that it's fair, but it just seems to be the way it is. Am I wrong? Are QBs judged the same?

I don't think Heath Schuler ever got a fair shake.

Let's bring him back - I mean, what the hell!!?

Hey, Sal....please forgive me for being so rude. On the behalf of me and my colleagues, welcome to the board.

Your "hindsight" will be much appreciated.

Sorry - I was typing when you posted this. I don't claim that it's fair, but it just seems to be the way it is. Am I wrong? Are QBs judged the same?


I don't believe you're wrong. I do believe more times than not, the quarterback is held to a higher standard. Maybe I suppose the reason is that he is often compared to being in the "driver's seat." But my point is, holding a position to a higher standard shouldn't be the sole reason why a team would dump a qb who has been playing pretty good for us this year, overall. I mean, would someone be considered a bad driver, because his car's transmission goes bad or his tires go flat? There isn't a direct correlation.

Why wouldn't any skin fan, wouldn't want Campbell to start, there no reason to bring in any other QB or keep, trying to hope Ramsey will just emerge like Brady and save the day, I'm so curious to see what Campbell can do, since some people in here thinks that he's such a dummy, its hard enough being a QB in this league, but still the Black QB has to continue to prove himself........the more things change the more they stay the same

I actually voted for campbell, but I didn't realize he was black... I change my vote J/K J/K J/K :yeahright

seriously though, do we need the racial stuff... :spank: I mean I seriously don't think that we gave up 2 1st round picks and a second to get this guy just to give him crap 'cause he's black.

I do feel that he has some high expectations to live up to considering what we did to get him, and the situation he's about to be put into. I just hope whatever Gibbs and co. saw in him materializes, and that the coaching staff stays together long enough for him to benefit from it.

Why wouldn't any skin fan, wouldn't want Campbell to start, there no reason to bring in any other QB or keep, trying to hope Ramsey will just emerge like Brady and save the day, I'm so curious to see what Campbell can do, since some people in here thinks that he's such a dummy, its hard enough being a QB in this league, but still the Black QB has to continue to prove himself........the more things change the more they stay the same

thats the wildest thing i have read sense Question 3

Last year was a wash for Brunell, Gibbs was trying to adjust his scheme, he didn't have the weapons he does now, he was playing hurt and it's no secret that the offense as a whole struggled.

This year we saw some flashes of what Brunell and this offense is capable of. I just think it's premature to say MB's time is over already. I don't see Ramsey getting another shot as the starter unless he really outperforms Brunell during the offseason, and I think we can forget about seeing Campbell until 2007.

I don't know about forgetting about Campbell... If brunell performs some majic, and the rest of the team syncs up to run the table and we go to the playoffs, he'll be back. Otherwise, (and I'm sure offseason performance will be a factor and we have no Idea what that's going to go like) I see campbell being there to take the call. Lets not forget what we gave up to give this guy, I can't see him sitting the bench for 2 years if he's making any progress in the offense.

I don't believe you're wrong. I do believe more times than not, the quarterback is held to a higher standard. Maybe I suppose the reason is that he is often compared to being in the "driver's seat." But my point is, holding a position to a higher standard shouldn't be the sole reason why a team would dump a qb who has been playing pretty good for us this year, overall. I mean, would someone be considered a bad driver, because his car's transmission goes bad or his tires go flat? There isn't a direct correlation.

I never meant (and I don't think I said) that we should dump him. My point was that the wisdom of the front office's decision to bring MB in will be evaluated based on whether or not we make the playoffs.