jdlea
12-10-2005, 04:18 PM
I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.
I would take a ton of QBs over Mark Brunell right now. I would agree that there have been break downs in other areas of the game, but he hasn't done much to make up for those shortcomings and that's the problem that I have with him. He never seems to play with any kind of urgency, outside of the Dallas game.
illdefined
12-10-2005, 04:20 PM
Based on what he does between the lines he's great. Would you argue that he's a great reciever? He's an asshole, but that doesn't mean he can't play the game. I wouldn't get him because there's no telling what he'd say to the media, but if I could get him to shut up and play, you're damn right I'd take him.
FYI, I'm not so naive that I think that anyone can get TO to shut up and play.
i'd say judging football players strictly by their stats is naive (as if Portis's yds were something to sneeze at). ask Gibbs and Williams what they think of doing that. better yet ask Andy Reid. ask him what a football TEAM is.
jdlea
12-10-2005, 04:21 PM
i'd say judging football players strictly by their stats is naive (as if Portis's yds were something to sneeze at). ask Gibbs and Williams what they think of doing that. better yet ask Andy Reid. ask him what a football TEAM is.
I didn't say because there stats were great that made them good team players, that's what makes them great football players though. TO is a great wide reciever.
Anthony Chance
12-10-2005, 04:26 PM
I would take a ton of QBs over Mark Brunell right now. I would agree that there have been break downs in other areas of the game, but he hasn't done much to make up for those shortcomings and that's the problem that I have with him. He never seems to play with any kind of urgency, outside of the Dallas game.
You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.
How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.
wolfeskins
12-10-2005, 04:26 PM
like it or not , stats don't lie. all the good football players have good stats and all the crappy players have crappy stats. you may find a few exceptions but not many.
jdlea
12-10-2005, 04:27 PM
I'm not saying that heart and character don't matter. I'm just saying that, in most cases, stats determine how good an offensive you are. More things come into play when you judge defensive players and I'm not even gonna get into that, so don't ask.
wolfeskins
12-10-2005, 04:28 PM
You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.
How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.
how many scoring drives has he led his team to compared to how many brunell has ?
illdefined
12-10-2005, 04:28 PM
I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.
you guys must not watch the games. instead you must just look at the numbers in the paper the next day. Portis has saved Brunell's ass SO many times...
jdlea
12-10-2005, 04:29 PM
You don't know greatness when it's staring you in the face.
How many QBs have only five interceptions at this point in the season.
Even "No Mistake" Jake has thrown more picks.
So the only stat you base a QBs greatness on is interceptions?
illdefined
12-10-2005, 04:31 PM
like it or not , stats don't lie. all the good football players have good stats and all the crappy players have crappy stats. you may find a few exceptions but not many.
point is, they don't keep stats for everything. guess all offensive linemen suck, they have no TDs, INTs, yards, OR sacks..