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[quote=JoeRedskin;434628]I am pretty sure we are alright as Stubhub is "the Official Ticket Marketplace of the Washington Redskins"

See: [URL="http://www.stubhub.com/washington-redskins-tickets/redskins-ticketcenter/?GCID=C12289x254-tixnav"]Redskins Tickets - Washington Redskins Tickets at StubHub![/URL]

I got this link from the Redskins website ([URL="http://www.redskins.com/"]Washington Redskins[/URL]) - just go to the "tickets" section - they have a direct link to StubHub.[/quote]
StubHub is the official site to sell the tickets but if you read the aggrement with season tickets it says clearly that selling the entire season tick is against the rules. It reads like this.

Season tickets packages may not be advertised or sold at any price. It then goes on to say that you can sell individual tickets to some games and talks about stubhub. So like I sadi I would be very careful offering the entire package as they can revoke the season tickets.

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Stubhub explicitly states that one cannot sell entire packages on their site somewhere.

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I wish I had season tickets, I'd love to go to two games a year, sell the rest on stubhub and actually make a profit.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;435153]I wish I had season tickets, I'd love to go to two games a year, sell the rest on stubhub and actually make a profit.[/QUOTE]

The profit to be had from selling season tickets is a pipe dream. Maybe some people who have 1st level 50 yard line can sell for a profit but for most season ticket holders it's a losing battle. When you figure in the 2 worthless preseason games and the fees added onto the invoice you are already about $400 down by the time September rolls around. With a 90,000 seat stadium there is only a few games where the demand will be greater then the supply. Then add in the 15% fee that stub hub takes from your sells. My tickets in row 12 of the 2nd level are $80...so I need to sell them for $94 each just to break even. There are very few games that i can get $94 per ticket for on Stub Hub. I love having my tickets and I will never give them up...but the idea that some people have that they are some sort of cash cow is just not true.

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[QUOTE=celts32;435271]The profit to be had from selling season tickets is a pipe dream. Maybe some people who have 1st level 50 yard line can sell for a profit but for most season ticket holders it's a losing battle. When you figure in the 2 worthless preseason games and the fees added onto the invoice you are already about $400 down by the time September rolls around. With a 90,000 seat stadium there is only a few games where the demand will be greater then the supply. Then add in the 15% fee that stub hub takes from your sells. My tickets in row 12 of the 2nd level are $80...so I need to sell them for $94 each just to break even. There are very few games that i can get $94 per ticket for on Stub Hub. I love having my tickets and I will never give them up...but the idea that some people have that they are some sort of cash cow is just not true.[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize it was so hard to sell them for the Skins.

My knowledge is of Red Sox games, and you can sell bleacher seats for $75 for goodness sake. People will pay it too. It's extremely easy to sell your sox tickets for 2 and possibly 3 times thier face value.

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The game experience is worth it now I admit the tickets are getting high and the Giants are no different but we had our seats with the Giants since 1949 in the Polo grounds of Brooklyn.No TV can match a real game and as for money we don't buy a thing at the game.Now we share I have a big family and we work things out but we all agree we must try to keep them as long as we can.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;434441]Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?[/QUOTE]

Email me, I'll buy them from you. Then I will scalp them, make a nice profit and tell you how much money I made!!!!

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[QUOTE=Giantone;435294]The game experience is worth it now I admit the tickets are getting high and the Giants are no different but we had our seats with the Giants since 1949 in the Polo grounds of Brooklyn.No TV can match a real game and as for money we don't buy a thing at the game.Now we share I have a big family and we work things out but we all agree we must try to keep them as long as we can.[/QUOTE]

Polo Grounds of Brooklyn? Polo grounds were in Manhattan, up past what is now Spanish Harlem.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;434516]My friend and I stub hubbed our season tix last year. He spoke to the Skins office and they gave him the go ahead. The Skins sanction resale through stub hub and, in fact, advertise it at the games.

I don't think they sanction other ways of resale. It may be one of those where DS says - "If you do it this way it's okay (since I get a cut). If you do it any other way, I'll revoke your tix since I get nothing out of it".

As for those who oppose reselling as it may give opps the ability to take our seats, I say then buy my tix. I buy them and resell them, not for a profit but so that I can hold onto them year to year and get better seats. The Preseason is a bitch but I look forward to being able to take my son to games in our seats. That includes those games that may be prohibitive (Dallas, Philly) in years where there is something at stake.

For the Dallas game this year, tix for seats comprable to mine went for 3x there face value on stub hub. Sorry, it's worth it to me to hold onto them and stub hub them until my financial situation improves.[/QUOTE]The Rangers do the same thing with the Rangers Ticket exchange. I sold a game against the Bruins for 70/each and a game against the Flyers for 80/each and my tickets face value is 30 each. They take a 5% commission. In the literature they send with my tickets, they make it clear that the ticketexchange is the only permissible re-sale method. Do they monitor Ebay and StubHub? No idea, but no point in risking it, imo.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;435287]I didn't realize it was so hard to sell them for the Skins.

My knowledge is of Red Sox games, and you can sell bleacher seats for $75 for goodness sake. People will pay it too. It's extremely easy to sell your sox tickets for 2 and possibly 3 times thier face value.[/QUOTE]

The Redsox stadium is smaller and they have been very good for the past several years which is probably raising demand even higher. And they are also not the best comparison since the historic venue they play in makes it a tourist attraction for everyone visiting Boston, not just Redsox fans.

There is a very high demand for Redskins tickets but a 92,000 seat stadium does a lot to curtail that demand. The problem in selling Redskins tickets is that you are always selling up against 5000 or more people, and non season ticket holders do not understand the price structure of the stadium. Row 15 and down in the upper deck is $80 but above row 15 is like $60. So what happens is that people with the real cheap tickets can mark those up much more and still make it look like they are selling them at a discount, whereas like I said in my first post I need to sell at $94 a ticket on stubhub to break even. Unless it's a big game in order to get sells I need to drop my price closer to what the top upper deck seats cost and I end up taking a loss.

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[quote=coggs;435295]Email me, I'll buy them from you. Then I will scalp them, make a nice profit and tell you how much money I made!!!![/quote]
Well if you can find people to pay you over $100 for the tickets when they can buy them on stubhub for less then I will be glade to sell them to you for $3,100 for all four in the upper level. That price includes preaseason cost so if you can get face value for them $65.00 then it will be much easier to turn a profit. One note: I could not give them away last year. They are to high up when people can find free tickets on lower levels. I need to have that done through pay pal by the 31st so let me know. My cost is 2,878 which I have the bill but need to make a little money if I'm going to keep them in my name.

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The biggest problem for me in selling extra skins tickets is that Stubhub is a ripoff! They take 15% off the top of all sells which is way to much. Other then Dallas it is impossible to sell skins tickets for 15% above cost...at least in my section it is. I used to sell on Ebay and do much better but now that the skins have this deal with Stubhub I am afraid to sell them anywhere else for fear that I will lose my tickets.

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[quote=coggs;435296]Polo Grounds of Brooklyn? Polo grounds were in Manhattan, up past what is now Spanish Harlem.[/quote]

Sorry,I keep thinking Brooklyn.There were more than one Polo grounds.
Brooklyn was Ebbits field




[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polo_Grounds"]Polo Grounds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

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I might not be renewing mine. Living in philly i get to maybe 2 or 3 games a year, and with stubhub and eBay, it is so much easier to get your hands on good seats without the hassle of having to sell off 5 or 6 games.

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campbell, where are your seats?

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[QUOTE=Giantone;435641]Sorry,I keep thinking Brooklyn.There were more than one Polo grounds.




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Talk about deep dimensions. Not many hit homers to straight away center unless they were inside the park jobs...

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[quote=dmek25;435725]campbell, where are your seats?[/quote]
section like 129 row 9

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I think the demand for Redskins tickets is very much overblown. Its hard to get people to buy them mostly due to the hassle of getting to FedEx.

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[QUOTE=irish;436362]I think the demand for Redskins tickets is very much overblown. Its hard to get people to buy them mostly due to the hassle of getting to FedEx.[/QUOTE]

I agree and disagree. They do sell out a 92,000 seat stadium which indicates a pretty big demand. Most NFL teams could not even come close to selling out fedex. However, the resale market for these tickets is not as brisk as some would think though.

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[QUOTE=celts32;436368]I agree and disagree. They do sell out a 92,000 seat stadium which indicates a pretty big demand. Most NFL teams could not even come close to selling out fedex. However, the resale market for these tickets is not as brisk as some would think though.[/QUOTE]

They sell all the tickets but from what I have seen all 92k dont show up. If it wasnt for my neighbor I'd have a hard time getting rid of my tix. The few times he couldnt make it I couldnt get anyone to take them.

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Part of the difficulty in getting people to buy tix on a game by game basis, I think, is that, if you wait until the week or even two weeks before a game, people have already made plans. Regardless of where you live, going to a game is a major time commitment. The game itself is over three hours add in travel time and actually getting into and out of the stadium and it is easily five to six hours right in the middle of a Sunday (generally) - and that doesn't include any tailgating time. Factor in that, when you're selling tix, you're usually selling them as a pair so you need two people to make this commitment. Generally, for the time and money being committed, it's not a spur of the moment thing.

Going to a game takes a little bit of a mindset and, again IMO, the Skins fans who are likely to buy tix from stub-hub, etc. are either a) one-timers who want to make sure they are fully prepped for their "game experience" and, thus, plan well in advance; or b) occasional visitors who are familiar with the time commitment and, again, plan in advance.

I find that I have an easier time dumping the a ticket to a friend or on short notice if I am going to the game myself. Generally, in those situations, the person going is a friend who is going as much for our camaraderie as for the game AND that person then doesn't have to find a partner to go in with him/her on the tix. (Yes, I know it's hard to believe but there are people who actually like to spend time with me - shocking but true).

As a practical matter, demand for [I]certain[/I] tix may be high but, think about it, other than 2005's run and last year's Dallas game - how often during the year do the Skins have "must see" games.

And that, folks, may be the only time I have ever agreed with irish.

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Oh - and BTW, I am selling my season tix off on stubhub. For now, we are selling the season, not individual games.

We moved into the lower bowl last year and are somewhere around the 20 yard line, 15 Rows up on the Redskins side.

If anyone is interested, PM me and I'll get the details.