Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;752472]This kills Dallas, and with Romo down, maybe for more than this season also. They have to replace that old ass line, Witten isn't getting any younger, and Bryant hasn't shown me squat yet. Their RBs suck also, especially behind that line. Romo isn't going to get the job done for them, so they need to draft a QB. By the time they get it straight Romo will be past his prime, if he even had a prime. [SIZE=4]Guy should have worked on improving his skills and not banging Jessica Simpson[/SIZE].[/quote]

Well..........I cannot fault him for that choice.....

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[quote=pg86;752468]IT wouldn't surprise me at all if we beat the Giants twice this year[/quote]

It would surprise me. I just hope we could beat them once. With the way we've been barely getting by, that won't work against them.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Why? They've shown they turn the ball over plenty and they nearly gave a Romo-less Cowboys team a second life.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

I wish we had more playmaking wideouts. Don't get me wrong I love Santana, and Anthony Armstrong looks to be improving, but seeing the Eagles with DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, and the Giants with Hakeem Nicks and Steve Smith, and the Cowboys with Dez Bryant (who had a great game tonight) and Miles Austin makes me envious. DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks, and Dez Bryant are all great playmakers, and they do make more plays than Santana.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Well Romo is done and so are the cowboys at 1-5 now...

What we can hope for is they help us out a little and maybe beat the Eagles,who have a bad defense. Even Kitna can carve that like butter.

Cowboys can actually help us out, by beating a few teams for us this season,to give us that high playoff seed:)

There not winning 8 of their last 10 with that schedule,so maybe upsetting a few teams could help us a bit.(and even that at 9-7, is no automatic playoff spot)

We will see...
Most importantly,we need to take care of business on our end.

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[quote=GreekSkin;752514]Why? They've shown they turn the ball over plenty and they nearly gave a Romo-less Cowboys team a second life.[/quote]

As we've seen, anything can happen in the NFL. But when I look at the Giants run-game, how are we gonna stop them when we make no-name RBs look good? Need I say anything about our CBs against their WRs? Remember... Eli ain't Cutler.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

BTW,a perfect scenario for the redskins besides us winning our games...?

Dallas is 1-5
------------------------------------
Dallas lose to Redskins,Jacksonville,@Colts and maybe lions(no shot),,,(4 more losses

and beat @Giants,Sweep the Eagles,win @ Green bay,win over saints

and maybe win over @Arizona (but this may not matter..we will see on this game)

This would give them a 7-9 record and no playoffs...and catapult the redskins to the superbowl:)

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

How many INT's did Eli throw(how many did Cutler throw)? Their Oline is better than the Bears, yet Eli threw multiple picks. I am not going to say today that we beat them hands down, but I think this team has done enough that they ought to at least be expected to compete against any team out there.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

3 or 4... I know at least 3. Brandon Jackson also fumbled again.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=aceinthehouse;752521]Well Romo is done and so are the cowboys at 1-5 now...

What we can hope for is they help us out a little and maybe beat the Eagles,who have a bad defense. Even Kitna can carve that like butter.

Cowboys can actually help us out, by beating a few teams for us this season,to give us that high playoff seed:)

There not winning 8 of their last 10 with that schedule,so maybe upsetting a few teams could help us a bit.(and even that at 9-7, is no automatic playoff spot)

We will see...
[B]Most importantly,we need to take care of business on our end[/B].[/quote]

This is all we need to do to get ourselves that high playoff seed you are talking about.

Do not rely on a team that is falling apart worse or as bad as we were last year. Without Romo the Cowboys will be lucky to win 3 more games this year. You actually predicted them to go 7-9.... :confused-

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=mooby;752516]I wish we had more playmaking wideouts. Don't get me wrong I love Santana, and Anthony Armstrong looks to be improving, but seeing the Eagles with DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, and the Giants with Hakeem Nicks and Steve Smith, and the Cowboys with Dez Bryant (who had a great game tonight) and Miles Austin makes me envious. DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks, and Dez Bryant are all great playmakers, and they do make more plays than Santana.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing--it's quite depressing when you look up and down the WR crop in our division and see so many young guys making plays. Jason Avant and Riley Cooper also make plays for the Eagles as do Manningham and Ramses Barden for the Giants. Makes me further question why we keep old retreads like Galloway and Roydell Williams. I'm glad Banks is getting a shot now. Might as well promote Austin and see what he can do. He'll gain experience and at the very least duplicate the 0-1 catches that Galloway gives us a game...

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;752530]This is all we need to do to get ourselves that high playoff seed you are talking about.

Do not rely on a team that is falling apart worse or as bad as we were last year. Without Romo the Cowboys will be lucky to win 3 more games this year. [B]You actually predicted them to go 7-9[/B].... :confused-[/quote]

Oh..god no
That was not a prediction..

That was a scenario of them taking down a few teams, while still not making the playoffs.

I too,think they will be lucky to win 3 more games as you do....

But what would you rather have?
Washington wins division with a 10-6 record and is the 3rd seed and Green bay is 11-5 and is the 2nd seed?

Or dallas beating Green bay and making green bay also 10-6 as we would be and us getting the 2nd seed instead.

That's just one example...

My point?
If the Cowboys have no shot at making the playoffs,then why not have them help us a bit by maybe beating the Giants or eagles once..?

We have a tough schedule...we might need that help.
That's all I'm saying...

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=mooby;752516]I wish we had more playmaking wideouts. Don't get me wrong I love Santana, and Anthony Armstrong looks to be improving, but seeing the Eagles with DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, and the Giants with Hakeem Nicks and Steve Smith, and the Cowboys with Dez Bryant (who had a great game tonight) and Miles Austin makes me envious. DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks, and Dez Bryant are all great playmakers, and they do make more plays than Santana.[/quote]

Don't worry, all we have to do is follow ace's advice. Trade away our draft picks for Vincent Jackson(and his kicking of the penalty flag in a playoff game). We'll be the rest of division in two ways. First, by showing they're wrong to use the draft and second, we get a HOF'er.
:cheeky-sm

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;752535]Don't worry, all we have to do is follow ace's advice. Trade away our draft picks for Vincent Jackson(and his kicking of the penalty flag in a playoff game). We'll be the rest of division in two ways. First, by showing they're wrong to use the draft and second, we get a HOF'er.
:cheeky-sm[/quote]

And you know what's worse? All of those wideouts I listed above, DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, and Dez Bryant were all drafted by their respective teams in the last 3 seasons, and Miles Austin was undrafted but spent enough time learning his craft so that he could be a playmaker when his number was called. We should've invested our 2008 first round pick on an offensive lineman because that was a weak draft for elite wideouts (yeah I know Eagles took DeSean Jackson when we had a chance to take him, we just went for the bigger guy instead of the smaller but faster wideout because that's what everybody thought we needed :(.)

It definitely hurts knowing these guys are going to be tearing up the league for a long time while we are sitting here with one quality wideout (Moss) and a bunch of has-beens (Galloway) or unknowns (Armstrong, Banks, Austin, and MK after this season).

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Yeah, Joey Galloway is a head scratcher at this point. Why and how is he still on the team? And has Roydell Wiliams even seen the field lately? We're essentially running the show with one wideout and one TE. That's it.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=12thMan;752546]Yeah, Joey Galloway is a head scratcher at this point. Why and how is he still on the team? And has Roydell Wiliams even seen the field lately? We're essentially running the show with one wideout and one TE. That's it.[/quote]

Yeah, we need 3 pro bowl receivers and an elite Tight End. If we had that we'd be....1-5? McNabb is still learning the system. Adding another pro bowl receiver won't make that much of a difference until the QB is comfortable with what we're doing. As far as I know we now have a running game, a pro bowl tight end, a pro bowl receiver, and a solid up and comer in Armstrong. Or if you prefer a 1,200 yard guy, 900 yard guy, 600 yard guy, and two 300 yard guys.

More importantly we have a guy that could easily become a 1,000 yard rusher.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=firstdown;752373]Well they are up by 10 after two minutes into the game.[/quote]


it's not how it starts ....it's how it ends.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;752528]How many INT's did Eli throw(how many did Cutler throw)? Their Oline is better than the Bears, yet Eli threw multiple picks.[/quote]

3 are being credited to him but as with all season...two out of the three were off the hands(tipped) of his recievers.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Eli Manning put on a show after those first 2 drives. Actually the whole Giants team put on a clinic. Their run game...awesome...mixed w/ highly effective pitches and catches by Eli and his very good core of recievers.

I never thought much of Eli his first few years, but these last few, he's really proven to be an excellent QB. Last night, he just carved them up.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=Giantone;752560]3 are being credited to him but as with all season...two out of the three were off the hands(tipped) of his recievers.[/quote]

[quote=Giantone;752557]it's not how it starts ....it's how it ends.[/quote]


Pretty much summed up my post from last night. :food-smil

[quote=Gtothearry;752378]If the Giants receivers caught the ball it would be 7-0 Giants. It's 10-7 now....games aren't decided in the 1st two minutes.[/quote]

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Pretty funny how after the Indy game people were leaving the Giants for dead, Coughlin was going to get fired after the season, etc. Now everyone is falling all over them. It's a long season.

Stay medium folks. (Hate to quote Zorn but that line is probably the only thing he said that made sense.)

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[quote=Mattyk;752593]Pretty funny how after the Indy game people were leaving the Giants for dead, Coughlin was going to get fired after the season, etc. Now everyone is falling all over them. It's a long season.

Stay medium folks. (Hate to quote Zorn but that line is probably the only thing he said that made sense.)[/quote]

I get the feeling the Giants go through this every year.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Did you see the stat that Eli is 20-4 in October. That is pretty crazy.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

I'll have to say the Giants look pratty dam good right now and Eli is playing lights out. He even looks like his brother when he is behind center.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;752610]Did you see the stat that Eli is 20-4 in October. That is pretty crazy.[/quote]

Glad we don't have to play them in October. :)

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

Fact of the matter is, the Giants are getting things together and right when they have an easier stretch in their schedule than the Redskins do. They can very easily be 8-2 before we know it and the Redskins are entering a very tough schedule after the bye. While I believe the Giants are beatable, they are still a very good team and one you do not want getting ahead in the division. While the second place team in the NFC East might make the playoffs, you can't count on that even if the second place team winds up 11-5.

While it is good that we pretty much don't have to worry about the Cowboys anymore (or at least at this point,) we still needed them to win to keep the Giants within reach. Yes, I know they are within reach right now, but that may not be the case after our bye week. The Redskins are really going to have to start playing better on offense if they are going to keep pace with the Giants.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=NYCSkin;752532]I was thinking the same thing--it's quite depressing when you look up and down the WR crop in our division and see so many young guys making plays. Jason Avant and Riley Cooper also make plays for the Eagles as do Manningham and Ramses Barden for the Giants. Makes me further question why we keep old retreads like Galloway and Roydell Williams. I'm glad Banks is getting a shot now. Might as well promote Austin and see what he can do. He'll gain experience and at the very least duplicate the 0-1 catches that Galloway gives us a game...[/quote]

to that end, and i believe key johnson said before last nights game, that they invested heavily into an already deep position of wide receiver with the 1st round selection of dez bryant, the resigning of austin and the draft pick given up to get roy wiliams.

just like the ravens sports radio guys have been saying that the ravens decision to invest their top picks on offense at the expense of the defense over the years (oher, grubbs, flacco, rice) and FA and trade acquisitions (birk, boldin, stallworth) has left them with lil relative depth on defense since they lost key players (scott, leonhard).

the only key defensive acquisition the ravens made was foxworth (and resigning lewis and suggs).

so i guess what im saying is the boys have loaded up on receivers at the expense of adding an O lineman or defensive player. it seems they certainly could use a high draft pick O lineman or safety more so than a 3rd wide receiver at this point.

and the ravens D is not what it used to be, this has been predicted and foreshadowed pretty intelligently by the baltimore talking heads for the past 2 years.

it should be interesting to see how the boys utilize their FA spending and draft picks in the next 2 years. another wr, te or rb should not be an option.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

And I will also add that it takes about 6 - 8 games to really see how good a team is going to be that season. The second half of the season is usually what separates the contenders from the pretenders. I think we are seeing that the Giants could possibly still be considered contenders despite their lackluster performance in the beginning.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;752380]Well Romo may have just dislocated his shoulder or broke his collarbone....[/quote]

Good diagnosis, Dr. artmonkforhalloffamein07.

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

My fellow Redskins brethren..you all need to relax a bit on the Giants 5-2 record.

The Giants under Coughlin have gone 5-2 or better,the last 7 seasons I believe...That's just their "MO".

What the Giants need to avoid,is what they do quite often with the exception to their 07' SB run...(which if you remember..they were a wildcard team at 9-7 and 6th seed,from that usual hot start)

Is they tend to fold after a hot start.
It's just what they do...

There's no reason to believe the same can't happen again with 5 games remaining in the division,a game @Seattle at Quest field,@ Green bay,@Vikings and so on...

Actually,with their [B]HOT[/B] start and 4 game winning streak and rolling...I think their BYE came at the worst time...They actually have to wait 2 weeks to play again and cool off...

Now that doesn't mean they can't go 12-4 or whatever,but there's still a lot aof football guys...

We beat the Lions this weekend and this Division gets very interesting:)

HTTR!!
ace

Re: What's better for the Skins tonight -- A Cowboys or Giants win?
 

It was tough even watching that game. I was hoping homo wasn't to hurt to finish the game so he could come back for the win but then on the winning play get crushed again and be on IR for the rest of the season. I think that would have been best for us lol