Re: 79 Mock Drafts: Sam Bradford still Redskins projected choice
 

6'6 320 is too small?

Re: 79 Mock Drafts: Sam Bradford still Redskins projected choice
 

[quote=Mattyk;658043]6'6 320 is too small?[/quote]

For an elephant, yes. LOL.

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[quote=SBXVII;657768]I'm speculating as well as you ant SI is. Yes they think he was worthy of the draft spot but it doesn't mean he actually would have been drafted there. It all depends on what teams need and what teams had him on there radar and well after the draft we heard from media people saying some teams felt we reached for him taking him in the 1st round and some teams wondered why we even drafted him because they felt JC would have been available after the draft as a UFA. But.... as I said it's all speculation. What we do know is he was drafted in the 1st round. Whether he's worthy of that spot is opinion.

My opinion? JC was most likely worthy of a 4,5,or 6th round spot and was majorly coached up. He's definitly a great back up QB. We need a Franchise QB though for the long haul. Hopefully between Dad and Son the Shanahan's can find one where ever they draft him.[/quote]

Nobody thought Campbell was going to go undrafted. It might have been a reach to take him in the first but there wasn't an analyst anywhere who did not have campbell as a top 3 round talent.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;657727]....I personally feel like Edwin Williams and Kory Lichtensteiger are going to work out well for our interior. Heck Casey Rabach might have his best season for the first time in a while. The thing we do know right now is that we need two tackles. Maybe for now the best COA would be to add one this year early in the draft and use Levi Jones as a stopgap at RT but theres a lot of time between now and the draft.[/quote]What we also know right now is that Bruce Allen is a member of this site and he's been reading my past posts :)

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/22793-the-official-draft-marcus-monk-thread.html#post429251[/URL]

I didn't even know we picked up KL until I read your post, see how much I'm paying attention.

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Something that just hit me now is that the argument to draft a QB at No. 4 is identical to the BPA argument.

I.e. we don't have a pressing concern at quarterback, but if a franchise guy is available at number four, we should take him and not think twice about it.

I agree with the logic. But that's the BPA argument that we always poked Vinny for, and a lot of people are using the same logic to suggest that Bradford/Clausen should be the pick.

/off-topic rant.

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[quote=Mattyk;658043]6'6 320 is too small?[/quote]

What do you expect us to do with a 6'6 tackle in the Ravens-Redskins intersquad basketball tournament? Jared Gaither is 6'9, we still don't have anyone to cover him!!!!

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[quote=GTripp0012;658227]Something that just hit me now is that the argument to draft a QB at No. 4 is identical to the BPA argument.

I.e. we don't have a pressing concern at quarterback, but if a franchise guy is available at number four, we should take him and not think twice about it.

I agree with the logic. But that's the BPA argument that we always poked Vinny for, and a lot of people are using the same logic to suggest that Bradford/Clausen should be the pick.

/off-topic rant.[/quote]

What gets me is that neither guy has really shown alot over a 2-3 year span. And with this logic, if the chosen one doesn't live up to the hype, do we draft the BQBA at #1 next year and every year thereafter until we get the one who has actually earned the hype? A #4 pick in the first round doesn't come around often. I hope we use it wisely and for someone who can win a starting job.... like this year.

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Didn't know where to put this so thought I would put it here. This is Mike Mayock's early release of the top draft prospects.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story?id=09000d5d815ee2f1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Despite injury, Bradford tops list of QBs in initial prospect rankings[/url]

Re: 79 Mock Drafts: Sam Bradford still Redskins projected choice
 

[quote=SBXVII;658264]Didn't know where to put this so thought I would put it here. This is Mike Mayock's early release of the top draft prospects.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story?id=09000d5d815ee2f1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Despite injury, Bradford tops list of QBs in initial prospect rankings[/url][/quote]

Mayock always has a few randoms or misses in his top 5 for each position. For example, Lamar houston and Dan Williams over Terrance Cody? Bryan Bulaga over Anthony Davis and Trent Williams???

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[quote=GTripp0012;658227]Something that just hit me now is that the argument to draft a QB at No. 4 is identical to the BPA argument.

I.e. we don't have a pressing concern at quarterback, but if a franchise guy is available at number four, we should take him and not think twice about it.

I agree with the logic. But that's the BPA argument that we always poked Vinny for, and a lot of people are using the same logic to suggest that Bradford/Clausen should be the pick.

/off-topic rant.[/quote]

A lot of people have the Vinny Cerrato mentality, just look at the thread where people gush over Sanchez, while completely disregarding the great offensive line and running game that the Jets have created.

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[quote=Ruhskins;658273]A lot of people have the Vinny Cerrato mentality, just look at the thread where people gush over Sanchez, while completely disregarding the great offensive line and running game that the Jets have created.[/quote]

I hate to say it but the Jets got very lucky this year. They're definitely a good team but look at the facts. They had 5 field goals missed against them in their first two playoff games. The last two games of the season where they needed to win out to get to the playoffs they were able to get games where their opponents were resting most of their starters for the second half.

They finally went up against a team with a solid O-Line (not great like the Jets), a good defense, and a franchise QB and basically couldn't keep up once the second half started. And by the way they should have lost to the Chargers. I mean great story that a gritty team like them won but if Nate Kaeding makes 2 of those kicks the Jets are going home a week early.

The Jets success next year will depend heavily on Sanchez becoming an 80+ QB. Make no mistake they worked for what they got but they still had a lot of help along the way.

We will add O-Lineman through the draft. Possibly as many as 3 if BA's draft record holds up. It's just that everyone shouldn't be surprised if it isn't with the #4 pick. Trust me, if it is a QB, you'll be thanking the front office by the end of the 2012 season, and not in a sarcastic way like....you know, "thanks Vinny." This isn't your Vinny Cerrato Redskins. If Vinny Cerrato was running this draft we'd be looking at a S, WR, CB, LB, K, and QB.

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;658223]
I didn't even know we picked up KL until I read your post, see how much I'm paying attention.[/quote]

Ha ha, I feel like I'm doing a public service now. Something like
[IMG]http://poorimpulsecontrol.net/blog/uploaded_images/nbc_the_more_you_know-784146.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;658276]I hate to say it but the Jets got very lucky this year. They're definitely a good team but look at the facts. They had 5 field goals missed against them in their first two playoff games. The last two games of the season where they needed to win out to get to the playoffs they were able to get games where their opponents were resting most of their starters for the second half.

They finally went up against a team with a solid O-Line (not great like the Jets), a good defense, and a franchise QB and basically couldn't keep up once the second half started. And by the way they should have lost to the Chargers. I mean great story that a gritty team like them won but if Nate Kaeding makes 2 of those kicks the Jets are going home a week early.

The Jets success next year will depend heavily on Sanchez becoming an 80+ QB. Make no mistake they worked for what they got but they still had a lot of help along the way.

We will add O-Lineman through the draft. Possibly as many as 3 if BA's draft record holds up. It's just that everyone shouldn't be surprised if it isn't with the #4 pick. [B]Trust me, if it is a QB, you'll be thanking the front office by the end of the 2012 season[/B], and not in a sarcastic way like....you know, "thanks Vinny." This isn't your Vinny Cerrato Redskins. If Vinny Cerrato was running this draft we'd be looking at a S, WR, CB, LB, K, and QB.



Ha ha, I feel like I'm doing a public service now. Something like
[IMG]http://poorimpulsecontrol.net/blog/uploaded_images/nbc_the_more_you_know-784146.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Yes. Something that seems to get lost in this conversation is a longer-term perspective. Suppose that over the next two offseasons we rebuild the offensive line so that it is quite good by 2011 or 2012. Don't we want a Philip Rivers or other bigtime QB behind them, when that happens? If so, you don't get such a QB very often in the lower rounds. Typically such a QB can only be found in the first 5 picks (there are exceptions, of course).

So, in the longer term perspective, if Shanny sees someone that he thinks is a true franchise QB at #4, it actually makes sense to take him, even with our enormous offensive line needs.

I'm not arguing to take a QB. But many people see the argument as an OL/QB either/or for 2010 only, and it seems to me that in long-term perspective things are more complex than that.

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[quote=RedskinMike;658221]Nobody thought Campbell was going to go undrafted. It might have been a reach to take him in the first but there wasn't an analyst anywhere who did not have campbell as a top 3 round talent.[/quote]

Not only was it a reach to take him in the first round it was complete stupidity to give away 3 draft picks to make that reach.

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[quote=irish;658302]Not only was it a reach to take him in the first round it was complete stupidity to give away 3 draft picks to make that reach.[/quote]

They gave up 2 and swapped 1sts. But the point I was trying to make was he would not of slipped past the third round let alone go undrafted.

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[quote=RedskinMike;658428]They gave up 2 and swapped 1sts. But the point I was trying to make was he would not of slipped past the third round let alone go undrafted.[/quote]

In all fairness he was projected to go to the Browns at 34 if he slipped by the Redskins at 25.