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firstdown 03-25-2008 10:35 AM

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Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?

FRPLG 03-25-2008 10:38 AM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;434441]Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?[/QUOTE]
Keep them and sell them off. You can get face value for the set most likey and then you get to have a chance at them every year. If you give them up now how long will it take to get them back if you ever want them again?

mredskins 03-25-2008 10:39 AM

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no brainer! Don't buy them. I go to one game a year that is all I need.

HD= No reason to go to the game!

FRPLG 03-25-2008 10:43 AM

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[QUOTE=mredskins;434444]no brainer! Don't buy them. I go to one game a year that is all I need.

HD= No reason to go to the game![/QUOTE]

With all due respect I think that a lot of people go to the game for the experience and HD doesn't offer that in any way.

ArtMonkDrillz 03-25-2008 10:57 AM

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My buddy who has season tickets (aka the reason I can go to about 7 games a year) doesn't think he's going to renew his tickets for many of the same reasons.
His thought is that it will end up being cheaper for him to buy tickets for every regular season game on the internet because he won't have to pay full price for meaningless preseason games or the taxes and fee associated with the seats.
He's also mad that he's been told that the only way he can get upgraded parking (he's been in the blue lot for about 6 years now) is if he joins the tailgate club, which he is totally against.
I'm mad because this could mean that I won't have the chance to go to nearly as many games as I'd like to but I understand where my friend is coming from.

Mc2guy 03-25-2008 10:57 AM

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I wouldn't renew, but that is just me. I was in the same situation where I would go to a couple games a year, but couldn't justify the season tix due to the hassle of selling and the greater overall cost of paying for fees/parking/preseason. I have found that the rowdier (i.e., drunker and more profane) the fans have gotten over the years, and the more expensive tickets/parking/food get, the less I actually enjoy the game.

Frankly, I find I can follow the technical nuances of the actual game much much better on TV, particularly on a big screen HD. If you are studious about each play and what is actually happening on the field, then TV is much better. If you are just about the "emotion" of the stadium atmosphere, then obviously the live experience trumps.

firstdown 03-25-2008 11:00 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;434442]Keep them and sell them off. You can get face value for the set most likey and then you get to have a chance at them every year. If you give them up now how long will it take to get them back if you ever want them again?[/quote]
Thats the problem is selling them at face value is a loss to me. Last year I figured if I added in my cost for taxes and preaseason games (which no one wanted or not willing to pay for) my cost was about $100 per ticket. I sold a few at $100 but I also sold a few for less than face value. I figured that the games I went to cost me around $280 per ticket figuring what I paid for them and what I was able to sell for the season. That allot for upper deck just to say I have season tickets.

MTK 03-25-2008 11:02 AM

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If you're not using them and you're losing $$ sounds like it's not worth the trouble.

FRPLG 03-25-2008 11:05 AM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;434451]Thats the problem is selling them at face value is a loss to me. Last year I figured if I added in my cost for taxes and preaseason games (which no one wanted or not willing to pay for) my cost was about $100 per ticket. I sold a few at $100 but I also sold a few for less than face value. I figured that the games I went to cost me around $280 per ticket figuring what I paid for them and what I was able to sell for the season. That allot for upper deck just to say I have season tickets.[/QUOTE]

I sell the entire package at face value and have never had any trouble finding someone to buy them.

mredskins 03-25-2008 11:11 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;434446]With all due respect I think that a lot of people go to the game for the experience and HD doesn't offer that in any way.[/quote]

Yeah you are right. After I watch it on HD I go and sit in my car for three hours afterwards, that way I get the full experience.

ArtMonkDrillz 03-25-2008 11:12 AM

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;434453]I sell the entire package at face value and have never had any trouble finding someone to buy them.[/QUOTE]If you try that on a site like StubHub and the team somehow finds out they'll revoke them from you anyway.

sbaughone 03-25-2008 11:18 AM

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Do what is right for your family. But never forget the joy of watching the 'Skin beat the cowpukes live...that truly is priceless.

FRPLG 03-25-2008 11:25 AM

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[QUOTE=mredskins;434455]Yeah you are right. After I watch it on HD I go and sit in my car for three hours afterwards, that way I get the full experience.[/QUOTE]

Hahaha. Very true.

FRPLG 03-25-2008 11:25 AM

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;434456]If you try that on a site like StubHub and the team somehow finds out they'll revoke them from you anyway.[/QUOTE]

Thats why I don't.

sbaughone 03-25-2008 11:30 AM

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<<If you try that on a site like StubHub and the team somehow finds out they'll revoke them from you anyway.>>

They should. StubHub is how 25,000 beagle fans get tickets to the game. If you're a Skins fan and you buy the tickets, you should go to the game. Selling them on stubhub is only aiding and abetting the enemy.

Stacks42 03-25-2008 11:30 AM

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[quote=firstdown;434441]Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?[/quote]


I feel you brother. I have season tickets, upperlevel (nosebleed), the skins wont let me move any closer to the action unless i buy club level, which is something like $3,800/seat. I ended up buying end zone seats from a friend and im trying to sell off my upperlevel seats while still keeping them in my name, I waited 18yrs on the season ticket waiting list. Im not giving them up now.

firstdown 03-25-2008 12:07 PM

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[quote=Stacks42;434470]I feel you brother. I have season tickets, upperlevel (nosebleed), the skins wont let me move any closer to the action unless i buy club level, which is something like $3,800/seat. I ended up buying end zone seats from a friend and im trying to sell off my upperlevel seats while still keeping them in my name, I waited 18yrs on the season ticket waiting list. Im not giving them up now.[/quote]
I know what you mean by the long wait for the tickets but just keeping them to have them is just not making any sense at this time. I can still pick the games I want to go to and get better seats and still come out cheaper. If you call the Redskins front office after March 31 they should give you some choices for better tickets in the upper level. You need to call and if someone did not renew their tickets and have better seats in the upper level they use to allow current ticket holders to move their seating. You have to call and ask or they will just offer them to the next person on the waiting list.

squrrelco3 03-25-2008 12:13 PM

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I signed up in 2004 just after Joe Gibbs came back for the season ticket waiting list, I got my letter last fall. I knew I was going to get upper level so I went to a game just to see what my seats would be like...decided not to take the offer...seats are just too damn high and I hate heights...would rather pay $200 for a lower level seat to one game (which would probably be about all I would be able to make it to anyway) on Stub Hub than $1000 for two seats I would probably never use and would then have to deal with the hassle of trying to sell each game.

jsarno 03-25-2008 12:29 PM

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;434456]If you try that on a site like StubHub and the team somehow finds out they'll revoke them from you anyway.[/QUOTE]

Is that really true? I have never heard of this before. My uncle handed down Red Sox season tickets to me, and when I left Boston, I handed them down to my brother. He goes to about 15-20 games a year and sells the rest on stub hub...been doing it for years. No one has ever said that he couldn't or they would be revoked. They are his to do with as he pleases.

I'd go through stub hub...if it is true that they could be revoked, so what...you were already thinking of cancelling them anyway.

firstdown 03-25-2008 12:49 PM

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[quote=jsarno;434483]Is that really true? I have never heard of this before. My uncle handed down Red Sox season tickets to me, and when I left Boston, I handed them down to my brother. He goes to about 15-20 games a year and sells the rest on stub hub...been doing it for years. No one has ever said that he couldn't or they would be revoked. They are his to do with as he pleases.

I'd go through stub hub...if it is true that they could be revoked, so what...you were already thinking of cancelling them anyway.[/quote]
Yes it does happen to people that sell all of their tickets every year and do not attend the games. Not sure how close it is monitored but I have read about people having their season tickets revoked. I remeber one where the tickets had been in the family for year but they never went to any games so the Skins revoked like 8 season tickets. You can pass the season tickets down to family members but I think you pay like $125 for them to process the name change. Thats one of the reason that you see so many non Reskins fans at the game because allot of people scalp all of their tickets every year.

JoeRedskin 03-25-2008 01:23 PM

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My friend and I stub hubbed our season tix last year. He spoke to the Skins office and they gave him the go ahead. The Skins sanction resale through stub hub and, in fact, advertise it at the games.

I don't think they sanction other ways of resale. It may be one of those where DS says - "If you do it this way it's okay (since I get a cut). If you do it any other way, I'll revoke your tix since I get nothing out of it".

As for those who oppose reselling as it may give opps the ability to take our seats, I say then buy my tix. I buy them and resell them, not for a profit but so that I can hold onto them year to year and get better seats. The Preseason is a bitch but I look forward to being able to take my son to games in our seats. That includes those games that may be prohibitive (Dallas, Philly) in years where there is something at stake.

For the Dallas game this year, tix for seats comprable to mine went for 3x there face value on stub hub. Sorry, it's worth it to me to hold onto them and stub hub them until my financial situation improves.

skinsfan69 03-25-2008 01:33 PM

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[quote=firstdown;434441]Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?[/quote]

I think going out to Fed Ex sucks. I go to one pre season game a year and that's it. I'd rather stay home and save the money.

jsarno 03-25-2008 02:12 PM

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Well it seems as if you go to some games, you are safe, if you decide to sell ALL of them online, then you will have them revoked.

firstdown 03-25-2008 02:24 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;434526]I think going out to Fed Ex sucks. I go to one pre season game a year and that's it. I'd rather stay home and save the money.[/quote]
I enjoy going to the games but I can only make about two games a year. We drive down early so getting into the stadium is never a problem. We stay the night a couple of miles away and hang out at the stadium Tail gating for several hours after the game so once again trafic is not an issue.

firstdown 03-25-2008 02:28 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;434516]My friend and I stub hubbed our season tix last year. He spoke to the Skins office and they gave him the go ahead. The Skins sanction resale through stub hub and, in fact, advertise it at the games.

I don't think they sanction other ways of resale. It may be one of those where DS says - "If you do it this way it's okay (since I get a cut). If you do it any other way, I'll revoke your tix since I get nothing out of it".

As for those who oppose reselling as it may give opps the ability to take our seats, I say then buy my tix. I buy them and resell them, not for a profit but so that I can hold onto them year to year and get better seats. The Preseason is a bitch but I look forward to being able to take my son to games in our seats. That includes those games that may be prohibitive (Dallas, Philly) in years where there is something at stake.

For the Dallas game this year, tix for seats comprable to mine went for 3x there face value on stub hub. Sorry, it's worth it to me to hold onto them and stub hub them until my financial situation improves.[/quote]
If I'm correct they can track the ticket sales in stubhub so I would make sure you get permission every year from the ticket office and write down the person you spoke with to be safe.

celts32 03-25-2008 02:40 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;434441]Well I only got my season tickets last year and I have decided not renew them unless someone can talk me into keeping them. My thinking is that I only go to a few games each year and it would be cheaper and much easier than haviing to sell my other tickets to just buy ones for a few games. I have four and have to buy 8 preseason tickets at $65.00 which is $520 which is a wasted because I don't go to those and could not sell them. If I add that to the games I attend at a cost of about the same $520 that gives me around a thousand dollars to spend for tickets without any hassel of selling tickets. You also have other cost and taxes which would bring that figure to around $1,200. So if I wanted to go to two games a year and its just me an the wife I would have $300 per ticket to spend and could get much better seating than section 428. So what do youu guys think?[/QUOTE]

I live in NJ and have season tickets. I go to about 5 games a year and sell the rest. Depending on the game I usually either lose money or break even after online fees. Contrary to what non ticket holders think the only game you can really make profit on is the Dallas game but it's also the one game you hate to sell. So I would agree you can probably save some money by not having season tickets and buying individual games, but personally I waited over 20 years to get my season tickets and I take pride in being a season ticket holder. It seems a little silly, but when I sit in my seats it means more to me and feels different then if I were in any other seat in there. If you don't get that same feeling when you sit in yours then you should definitely let them go.

BDBohnzie 03-25-2008 02:43 PM

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That's a sticky situation, but it sounds like giving up your seats and scalping/stub hub is your best way to go, especially since you do not live in the DC area.

If you could somehow package the other 6 games and get the value of those 6 + the 2 preseason games, it would be worth it. It's probably a catch-22, since the 2 games you probably go to are the Cowboys and either Giants or Eagles, and those are the games that would fetch the most.

firstdown 03-25-2008 02:53 PM

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[quote=celts32;434564]I live in NJ and have season tickets. I go to about 5 games a year and sell the rest. Depending on the game I usually either lose money or break even after online fees. Contrary to what non ticket holders think the only game you can really make profit on is the Dallas game but it's also the one game you hate to sell. So I would agree you can probably save some money by not having season tickets and buying individual games, but personally I waited over 20 years to get my season tickets and I take pride in being a season ticket holder. It seems a little silly, but when I sit in my seats it means more to me and feels different then if I were in any other seat in there. If you don't get that same feeling when you sit in yours then you should definitely let them go.[/quote]
I know what you saying about the feeling you get going to the game as a ticket holder it just feels a little different. Like these are my seats in our house. Its not a thing of affording the tickets but more of is it very practical way to spend my money and the hassell of selling the other tickets at a loss.

FRPLG 03-25-2008 03:37 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;434516]My friend and I stub hubbed our season tix last year. He spoke to the Skins office and they gave him the go ahead. The Skins sanction resale through stub hub and, in fact, advertise it at the games.

I don't think they sanction other ways of resale. It may be one of those where DS says - "If you do it this way it's okay (since I get a cut). If you do it any other way, I'll revoke your tix since I get nothing out of it".

As for those who oppose reselling as it may give opps the ability to take our seats, I say then buy my tix. I buy them and resell them, not for a profit but so that I can hold onto them year to year and get better seats. The Preseason is a bitch but I look forward to being able to take my son to games in our seats. That includes those games that may be prohibitive (Dallas, Philly) in years where there is something at stake.

For the Dallas game this year, tix for seats comprable to mine went for 3x there face value on stub hub. Sorry, it's worth it to me to hold onto them and stub hub them until my financial situation improves.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.

KLHJ2 03-25-2008 03:53 PM

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My Uncle has season tickets for 5 seats in the nosebleed section. Every year he has a guy (the same guy, who is a skins fan) that is willing to purchase those seats from him. He uses the money from selling those seats to purchase 2 better seats off of Stubhub or somewhere. We get great seats every year by selling the less attractive seats.

firstdown 03-25-2008 05:46 PM

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[quote=angryssg;434585]My Uncle has season tickets for 5 seats in the nosebleed section. Every year he has a guy (the same guy, who is a skins fan) that is willing to purchase those seats from him. He uses the money from selling those seats to purchase 2 better seats off of Stubhub or somewhere. We get great seats every year by selling the less attractive seats.[/quote]
So if what I understand your saying is that your uncle sells his upper level tickets for about $5,000 to $6,000 over his price to purchase club level or better at around $3,000 each. Or does he get two really good tickets for one game for you two to go too. ( thats the proper way to use to, too and Two).

EXoffender 03-25-2008 06:21 PM

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Dude. There should be plenty of folks down here who'd be glad to take those off your hands. I'll send you a PM. Heck. I love preseason games...

chrisl4064 03-25-2008 06:34 PM

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beer is 9 bucks, im rich and that sucks! fedex is the worst!

KLHJ2 03-25-2008 06:40 PM

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[quote=firstdown;434617]So if what I understand your saying is that your uncle sells his upper level tickets for about $5,000 to $6,000 over his price to purchase club level or better at around $3,000 each. Or does he get two really good tickets for one game for you two to go too. ( thats the proper way to use to, too and Two).[/quote]


We pick and choose. We do not attend every game, however when we do go, we get LL 50 Yardline. Whatever the cost is over the price we pull out of pocket. That is still a discount compared to what the cost could be.

I never said that the selling our tickets covered the full cost of the new tickets we purchased. I am sure that he slightly overprices the tickets when he sells them so that he may profit. The profit helps offset the price of the tickets we purchase later.

JoeRedskin 03-25-2008 07:16 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;434559]If I'm correct they can track the ticket sales in stubhub so I would make sure you get permission every year from the ticket office and write down the person you spoke with to be safe.[/QUOTE]

I am pretty sure we are alright as Stubhub is "the Official Ticket Marketplace of the Washington Redskins"

See: [url=http://www.stubhub.com/washington-redskins-tickets/redskins-ticketcenter/?GCID=C12289x254-tixnav]Redskins Tickets - Washington Redskins Tickets at StubHub![/url]

I got this link from the Redskins website ([url=http://www.redskins.com/]Washington Redskins[/url]) - just go to the "tickets" section - they have a direct link to StubHub.

GusFrerotte 03-25-2008 09:27 PM

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Sorry, the real game experience isn't so hot, or more to the truth worth the big bucks if you are only going to a few games a year. I mean sure the atmosphere can be electric during a really big game, but come on.. the traffic, the crowds and sitting in a cramped seat for 3 hours, then having to get up, deal with the crowds, then the traffic going home, etc sort of negates that. If you were going to make all 8 games I might say season tickets would be worth it, but I agree with Mredskins, get a nice HD TV and you got that beat. No crowds, no traffic, can easily get snacks if not have them sprawled out before hand, not to forget the nice soft Lazyboy you get to sit in. And if the game is a stinker, turn the channel or just leave and do something else.

SkinDogg 03-25-2008 11:20 PM

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Just a thought, and probably a pipedream, but what if the Skins move back to DC? Aside from the jacked-up cost and club-level posers, most of the headache involves trekking around the beltway to get to FedEx not to mention the added migraine getting in/out of the parking lot. Skins in DC would of course eliminate that and make game day an ugly drunken Metro ride.

I'm in New York now so I'm not up on the latest Fenty-Snyder stadium pow-wow. But if something's foreseeable in, say, the next 5 years or so, holding on to tkts might be something to consider. If you held season tks at RFK would you ever pass them on? I wouldn't.

Ahh..RFK... what sacred ground. I attended a Nationals game last year and it was like seeing an old friend.

billyredskin 03-26-2008 09:34 PM

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Quick story...nothing to do with season tickets. I travelled with a friend 3 years ago to Dallas and landed tickets to the Skins/Cowboys Monday night game. About 5 minutes into the 4th quarter my buddy pukes his guts out on several Cowboy fans in the row ahead of us and I have to drag his drunken ass out of there. As I get him into the rental car, I turn on the radio just as Moss catches the first of 2 TDs to beat the 'boys. We took so much crap from those fans around us all game and I MISSED our comeback and the chance to gloat. The story of my life.

KB24 03-27-2008 07:39 AM

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;434651]Sorry, the real game experience isn't so hot, or more to the truth worth the big bucks if you are only going to a few games a year. I mean sure the atmosphere can be electric during a really big game, but come on.. the traffic, the crowds and sitting in a cramped seat for 3 hours, then having to get up, deal with the crowds, then the traffic going home, etc sort of negates that. If you were going to make all 8 games I might say season tickets would be worth it, but I agree with Mredskins, get a nice HD TV and you got that beat. No crowds, no traffic, can easily get snacks if not have them sprawled out before hand, not to forget the nice soft Lazyboy you get to sit in. And if the game is a stinker, turn the channel or just leave and do something else.[/QUOTE]

And don't forget a relatively clean bathroom!

skinsfan69 03-27-2008 12:31 PM

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[quote=firstdown;434555]I enjoy going to the games but I can only make about two games a year. We drive down early so getting into the stadium is never a problem. We stay the night a couple of miles away and hang out at the stadium Tail gating for several hours after the game so once again trafic is not an issue.[/quote]

I see you're from Chesapeake. I've got family down in the area. That's a long haul!


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