2009 Free Agents Spreadsheet
 

Thanks to GTripp for putting this together for us

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/2009FreeAgents.htm[/url]

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Taking over my old job I see.

Tripp it would help if you explained the player values

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Cool deal.

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Player Value is based on a 79 scale. At a rating of 79 or higher, I rated a player worthy of starting for an NFL team. Lower than that, better suited for a backup role. All based on a few seasons of rate statistics, but also age, and then my best subjective guess at how much a system has affected a guys' value (conservative estimates, generally).

I've moved some numbers around since. For example, DeAngelo Hall is a 82 on my latest edition due to an adjustment I made for his Oakland numbers.

I'll make an updated one right before free agency opens.

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Nicely done.

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I like this, good tool. Adds a lot to the site.

The tendency of course is to look at the player value numbers and point to guys who would be upgrades for us. But needless to say this does not consider a player's fit within given systems/philosophies.

Nevertheless I can't think of a better source to reference when I want to see the available free agents along with a quick measure of relative skill/value. Good stuff.

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Man i luv this site! Props to GTripp.

... i must be missing something cuz i thought Monty is a FA this year but don't see him listed on the DT tab? Also, does anybody know whether our FO has shown interest in Hill and the status of his relationship w/ Seattle?

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Thanks GT

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... i get it, RFAs aren't listed at all. Still curious about Hill though if anybody has the scoop.

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[quote=The Goat;527956]... i get it, RFAs aren't listed at all. Still curious about Hill though if anybody has the scoop.[/quote]

At one time the Seahawks were considering tagging Hill but after his arrest on possession of marijuana in January, Mora wants to meet with him and discuss his future. I'm pretty sure they want to sign him or tag him. Great Job GTripp, thanks for the info! :goodjob:

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[quote=SmootSmack;527926]Taking over my old job I see.

Tripp it would help if you explained the player values[/quote]

SS you're a Hill advocate and usually have some good info or at least good intuition on what's taking place behind the scenes... is you're advocacy just wishful thinking at this point or can the rest of us hope SLB will be upgraded (significantly) for '09?

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By the way Suggs was tagged yesterday. :(
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ecf549&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Ravens designate LB Suggs as franchise player for second time[/url]

Sproles also.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ece1c8&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Chargers go to backup plan, put franchise tag on RB Sproles[/url]

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Very useful info ...thanks

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Im just wondering, how accurate would you say your ratings are? How well do you really know these players?
I cant flat out say that these ratings are off because I havent seen all these guys play consistently...Im just saying Im skeptical about multiple ratings like OJ Atogwe who is rated as a below average player, but on paper over the last 3 years he has 16 picks (5.4 per year) 11 forced fumbles (3.7 per year) and 235 tackles (78 tackles per year).
I know everyone has different ratings on players but it kinda seems like alot of numbers were just thrown out there without much basis behind it...
Lol, I feel like a dick for saying this because I use tools like this alot and do appreciate you doing this.

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(sorry for the double post)
A better way to say what I am trying to ask is how did you evaluate the numbers? What is the method behind the madness?

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The only rating I would question is Tank Johnson as an 86. I believe that his infamy and being a cowboy can be attributed to him being overrated.

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nice job. thanks for putting that together. if you have the time, it would be awesome if there was a column stating the players current status (ufa, rfa, franchised, etc)

also, please tell me these ratings dont come from madden 09 ;-)

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;528613]nice job. thanks for putting that together. if you have the time, it would be awesome if there was a column stating the players current status (ufa, rfa, franchised, etc)

also, please tell me these ratings dont come from madden 09 ;-)[/quote]Thanks. All players in this document are UFA. In the update next week, I'll put out a column for the players who have the franchise designation.

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[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;528605]Im just wondering, how accurate would you say your ratings are? How well do you really know these players?
I cant flat out say that these ratings are off because I havent seen all these guys play consistently...Im just saying Im skeptical about multiple ratings like OJ Atogwe who is rated as a below average player, but on paper over the last 3 years he has 16 picks (5.4 per year) 11 forced fumbles (3.7 per year) and 235 tackles (78 tackles per year).
I know everyone has different ratings on players but it kinda seems like alot of numbers were just thrown out there without much basis behind it...
Lol, I feel like a dick for saying this because I use tools like this alot and do appreciate you doing this.[/quote]My ratings are more accurate than most sources, and less accurate than the best league sources (of which I do not have access to ;) ) So yeah, feel free to disagree with whatever ones you feel like you have some inside info on. All of my ratings are based on information that is at least somewhat public [or that I have made public], (like O.J. Atogwe not being able to cover or tackle all that well, and much of his value coming off a return TD fumble by our Guard).

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[quote=GTripp0012;528703]and much of his value coming off a return TD fumble by our Guard).[/quote]

:laughing2 Good stuff.

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FYI,

Defensivie tackles Ryan Sims and Dwan Edwards were resigned by Tampa and Baltimore. Edwards could have been a no risk signing for the Redskins. He was hurt in 2008 but did well in 2007 as a replacement for the the Ravens.

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update:


[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/2009FreeAgents.htm[/url]

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Leonard Weaver is 88? That can't be right.

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[quote=saden1;540379]Leonard Weaver is 88? That can't be right.[/quote]In the context of position, I would say it's fair. He clearly brings an element to the offense that most FBs don't.

Sellers on the same scale would be a 90 or a 91, so it's pretty moot from our perspective, especially so since he signed with Philly a day after I sent these in.

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Great Job. However I would say that Tory Holt is still the best WR available...he can still play. Where did you get the rankings from?

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[quote=bigm29;540388]Great Job. However I would say that Tory Holt is still the best WR available...he can still play. Where did you get the rankings from?[/quote]The rankings themselves are mathematically based at positions like QB, RB, WR, CB, S, and DL...but I did create the 79 scale myself, so I guess they become my own ratings.

Positions like FB, OL, LB where the ratings can't be based much on data are a best guess by me to place them on the 79 scale based on how they've been used, and thusly, obviously subject to human error and bias.

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Weaver signed with the Eagles by the way, so you gotta update this bad boy again

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[quote=SmootSmack;540441]Weaver signed with the Eagles by the way, so you gotta update this bad boy again[/quote]I'm up to date, but I don't think Matty would like me very much if I just flooded his inbox every time a signing was made ;)

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[quote=GTripp0012;540387]In the context of position, I would say it's fair. He clearly brings an element to the offense that most FBs don't.

Sellers on the same scale would be a 90 or a 91, so it's pretty moot from our perspective, especially so since he signed with Philly a day after I sent these in.[/quote]


He signed a one year contract with the Eagles at age 26. That aught to tell you something about him. I've seen the guy play plenty, he's so-so at best and if you look at the game logs they tell you just as much. He's a slightly better catcher than Rod Gardner, his blocking leaves much to be desired much of the time, and his running is inconsistent. At 87 you're too kind to Mr. Weaver.