Sen. Arlen Specter Switches to the Democratic Party
 

I thought I should share the good news, the fat lady has sung for the GOP. Point, Game, Set, Match! Change Wins!

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I was going to post this..but figured you'd want the honors :)

(bonus points to firstdown if he can turn this political thread into a non-political thread)

Some would argue that Specter left the Republican party a long time ago, others that it left him. Alls I know is for moderate republicans like myself, this is another sign that maybe the GOP just don't want us anymore. But can you win in 2012 without us? Because you couldn't in 2008.

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Heard him on the Stern show a few weeks back and I had to keep reminding myself he was a Republican. He also sounded disillusioned with the Rep. party in general.

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Here's a link as to his possible reasoning.

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/specter-to-switch-parties.html?hpid=topnews"][COLOR=#800080]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/specter-to-switch-parties.html?hpid=topnews[/COLOR][/URL]

It is true that Pennsylvania is an increasingly liberal state and they could have produced a strong moderate dem candidate. This decision is probably more about self-preservation than anything else

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You know, it's kinda hard not to leave when party "leaders" are talking about not supporting you and there's some guy in your home state they're all cheering for to beat you in the primaries. RINO or not every man has his pride. The fact that recent polls show GOP self-identification around ~21% of the electorate doesn't hurt his chances either. I suspect Obama will camping for him and he will have the full support of the Democratic machine behind him. So long as he votes with the Dems he'll easily win next year.

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This is awesome! I can't wait to hear what Rush Limbaugh has to say about this!

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Does anyone know the best way to get to Myrtle Beach from Tidewater Va?

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[quote=firstdown;552481]Does anyone know the best way to get to Myrtle Beach from Tidewater Va?[/quote]

I made it too easy

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[quote=SmootSmack;552487]I made it too easy[/quote]
Actually I was looking up directions when I read this post so it was pretty easy. While you guys are working the next few days I'll be in sunny (well thats if we don't get smoked out) SC with 15 friends playing golf for 5 days. I get back Sunday night and Monday is my birthday and I'm going fishing for the day. Tuesday the 5th when I get back to the office I'm having new computers installed and will have to deal with that for two days.

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[quote=firstdown;552494]Actually I was looking up directions when I read this post so it was pretty easy. While you guys are working the next few days I'll be in sunny (well thats if we don't get smoked out) SC with 15 friends playing golf for 5 days. I get back Sunday night and Monday is my birthday and I'm going fishing for the day. Tuesday the 5th when I get back to the office I'm having new computers installed and will have to deal with that for two days.[/quote]

Uhh...thanks for posting your itinerary (?)

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Hmmmmm.........dementia?

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even a 79 year old man realizes change is good! 70 and first, my condolences. and S.S, there is still room for you

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[quote=SmootSmack;552451]I was going to post this..but figured you'd want the honors :)

(bonus points to firstdown if he can turn this political thread into a non-political thread)

Some would argue that Specter left the Republican party a long time ago, others that it left him. Alls I know is for moderate republicans like myself, this is another sign that maybe the GOP just don't want us anymore. But can you win in 2012 without us? Because you couldn't in 2008.[/quote]

I'd argue he isn't even a moderate. he isn't fiscally conservative by any stretch. nor socially. I am nto sure how exactly he still thought he was a republican.

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Didn't Arlen Spector start off as a Democrat? Spector and Collin Powell can take a hike. Now if the Republicans could only get rid of McCain I would consider voting for them, until then they can keep on losing. It doesn't really matter anyway. They're already cramming down the uber-liberal agenda? I'm not upset because Bush had a BS liberal agenda too. What's the difference?

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[quote=dmek25;552509]even a 79 year old man realizes change is good! 70 and first, my condolences. and S.S, there is still room for you[/quote]
I heard he was promised a tour of NY in Air Force One but right now Obama cannot seem to locate his plane.

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[quote=SmootSmack;552451]I was going to post this..but figured you'd want the honors :)

(bonus points to firstdown if he can turn this political thread into a non-political thread)

[B]Some would argue that Specter left the Republican party a long time ago, others that it left him. Alls I know is for moderate republicans like myself, this is another sign that maybe the GOP just don't want us anymore. But can you win in 2012 without us? Because you couldn't in 2008.[/B][/quote]

I was going to post an opinion, but then I read the part in bold. 100% agree.

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[quote=SmootSmack;552451]I was going to post this..but figured you'd want the honors :)

(bonus points to firstdown if he can turn this political thread into a non-political thread)

Some would argue that Specter left the Republican party a long time ago, others that it left him. Alls I know is for moderate republicans like myself, this is another sign that maybe the GOP just don't want us anymore. But can you win in 2012 without us? Because you couldn't in 2008.[/quote]

Who voted for McCain but moderates? McCain is the ultimate moderate. I didn't vote for him nor did any of the people I know. A few die hards here and there went out but most of the conservatives stayed home. It's your party not ours. If you want to see how many elections moderate Republicans can win you'll have no better example than this past one.

I think you have it the other way around? You don't actually believe the packaging and fluff that they put out about being conservative? They only put that garbage out during elections for the die hards. You can have the Republican party. It stinks!

Specter is a typical floater. He sticks his finger in the wind and sees which way the wind is blowing, no principle, no honor, just strait up political survival.

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You really aren't good at math are you TTL?

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[quote=saden1;552638]You really aren't good at math are you TTL?[/quote]

Are you talking to me or are you not really good with your spelling?

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[quote=FRPLG;552513]I'd argue he isn't even a moderate. he isn't fiscally conservative by any stretch. nor socially. I am nto sure how exactly he still thought he was a republican.[/quote]He thinks Bill Belichick is unamerican?

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[quote=firstdown;552536]I heard he was promised a tour of NY in Air Force One but right now Obama cannot seem to locate his plane.[/quote]
he knows exactly where that plane is. its flying around, fixing all the bridges that W. tried to burn

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;552645]Are you talking to me or are you not really good with your spelling?[/quote]

Admittedly my spelling skills is so-so at best but my math skills are super sharp. You?

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Didn't Joe say that about his players? Like "his math skills are Super Sharp" !!!

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[quote=saden1;552670]Admittedly my spelling skills is so-so at best but my math skills are super sharp. You?[/quote]

What are you getting at Saden?

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[quote=saden1;552638]You really aren't good at math are you TTL?[/quote]

No kidding

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Great Orators of the Democrat Party

'One man with courage makes a majority.'
- Andrew Jackson

'The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.'
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

'The buck stops here.'
- Harry S. Truman

'Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.'
- John F. Kennedy (By the way, this is an exact quote from a speech given by Army Gen'l. Omar Bradley in 1953, just a few years prior to JFK using it in his inaugural speech. JFK or his speech writers recognized a great quote, but none credited Bradley for one of the greatest patriotic quotes of all time - plagiarism, anyone?)



And for today's Democrats...

'It depends what your definition of sex is."
- Bill Clinton

'That Obama - I would like to cut his NUTS off.'
- Jesse Jackson

'Those rumors are false .... I believe in the sanctity of marriage.'
- John Edwards

'I invented the Internet'
- Al Gore

'The next Person that tells me I'm not religious, I'm going to shove
my rosary beads up their ass.'
- Joe Biden

' America --is no longer, uh, what it--it, uh, could be, uh what it was once was...uh, and I say to myself, 'uh, I don't want that future, uh, uh for my children.' ''
- Barack Obama (without his telepromptor)

'I have campaigned in all 57 states.
- Barack Obama

'You don't need God anymore, you have us Democrats.'
- Nancy Pelosi (said back in 2006)

'Paying taxes is voluntary.'
- Sen. Harry Reid

'Bill is the greatest husband and father I know. No one is more faithful, true, and honest than he.'
- Hillary Clinton (said back in 1998)


You can add one more to the list: Pelosi recently saying (TWICE!) that "If the Stimulus (Spending) Package is not passed quickly, then 500 million people will lose their jobs". Since there are approximately 280-290 million people currently living in the U.S. , total, I would assume the remainder she is referring to are illegal Mexicans.

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[quote=firstdown;552536]I heard he was promised a tour of NY in Air Force One but right now Obama cannot seem to locate his plane.[/quote]
~~~~~~
Obama thinks it may be over one of the 57 states. Either way it is Bush's fault.

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Just curious why Barry, Nancy and Harry want to deal with the healthcare issue behind closed doors and not let it hit the House/Senate floor.

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;552799]Just curious why Barry, Nancy and Harry want to deal with the healthcare issue behind closed doors and not let it hit the House/Senate floor.[/quote]

"It depends on what your definition of sex is"

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It's not uncommon for someone in Specter's posotion to switch parties. Several Democrats became Reepulicans in the mid 90s so they could protect their seats and be in the majority. Specter is older than dinosaur crap and he's had the cancer twice, so it's not likely that he will be in the Senate for too long as a member of any political party.

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[quote=SmootSmack;552451]I was going to post this..but figured you'd want the honors :)

(bonus points to firstdown if he can turn this political thread into a non-political thread)

Some would argue that Specter left the Republican party a long time ago, others that it left him. Alls I know is for moderate republicans like myself, this is another sign that maybe the GOP just don't want us anymore. But can you win in 2012 without us? Because you couldn't in 2008.[/quote]

How any true conservative can align themselves with the Republican party at this time is completely beyond me. I mean other than the whole thing that we'll be completely communist by tomorrow that is.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;552514]Didn't Arlen Spector start off as a Democrat? Spector and Collin Powell can take a hike. Now if the Republicans could only get rid of McCain I would consider voting for them, until then they can keep on losing. It doesn't really matter anyway. They're already cramming down the uber-liberal agenda? I'm not upset because Bush had a BS liberal agenda too. What's the difference?[/quote]

He did; and you really won't see much of a change.

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[quote=Superman13732;552761]Great Orators of the Democrat Party

'I invented the Internet'
- Al Gore
.[/quote]

If you can find me a source for this I'll leave the board forever.

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another myth created by th G.O.P

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[quote=tryfuhl;552843]If you can find me a source for this I'll leave the board forever.[/quote]

[url=http://sethf.com/gore/]Al Gore "invented the Internet" - resources[/url]

You can stay - but it is pretty darn close:
[quote]GORE: ... During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.[/quote]

pretty fascinating how words/perception/even outright fiction can turn into "fact"

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[quote=dmek25;552875]another myth created by th G.O.P[/quote]

Didn't realize the GOP was responsible...

Anyway, once and for all here is what Gore actually said

[url=http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/index.html]Transcript: Vice President Gore on CNN's 'Late Edition' - March 9, 1999[/url]

[quote]During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system. [/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;552892][url=http://sethf.com/gore/]Al Gore "invented the Internet" - resources[/url]

You can stay - but it is pretty darn close:


pretty fascinating how words/perception/even outright fiction can turn into "fact"[/quote]

Beat me to it...thanks Danny Ocean

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[quote=SmootSmack;552896]Beat me to it...thanks Danny Ocean[/quote]

I could deal with that becoming fact as well, I won't even mind if the GOP is to blame.

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[quote=Superman1337]'It depends what your definition of sex is."
- Bill Clinton[/quote]

Thats a good one! But my favorite one of Bill's was this one:

"Indeed I experimented with Pot a time or two and I didn't like it and I didn't inhale and thats that."

You just can't have a Bill Clinton quote without that one!

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Who was that crazy dem. that spoke back at the rep. convention in the 2004 election that said something like "What do they want us to do shoot spit balls at them" talking about the dems. and funding for the war. That speach he made was a classic.